Veritas Micro Adjust wheel gauge question *LINK*

Re: Starrett Scratch Gauge

Larry Felix

>The Starrett gauge works fine with the titemark wheel (I ordered mine from the Museum of Woodworking Tools). Not having it in front of me now, I believe that I replaced the pan head (or binding head) screw that is supplied with the Starrett gauge with a flat head screw to properly center the wheel. Of course, as the wheel doesn't locate itself where the original scratch head sits, you either have to account for the offset or disregard the scale on the beam when setting the gauge.

Re: On microadjustment

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>Lyn,

When I threw the Glen-Drake brochure in the Christmas gifts folder, I thought that I would like the marking gauge because of the capability for fine adjustment, not any specific numerical micrometer-like setting ability (also, it is my first wheel-style gauge). Now, six days after receiving a set of Glen-Drakes, I am certainly not an expert on their use, but I already can see that I will enjoy being able to lock down the main clamp screw so that the fence is close to what I need, and then be able to twist the knurled section to close in on my desired setting, whether from another piece of wood, or a mortise, or a ruler, etc.

It's the convenience that I like. With the traditional gauge, when I loosen the thumbscrew, sometimes I get a big jump, or when tightening it it the head moves a bit. The Glen-Drake (and other similar ones, I suppose) does not do this.

actually, I'm a Rob Cosman groupie, and I saw him use it in his dovetail video ;-)

Hey, Rob...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>Should I be looking for a New Year's supplement for all these neat gizmos I keep reading about here?!

Re: Hey, Rob...

Rob Lee

>January supplement was mailed on Dec 30th!

Cheers -

Rob

Woo hoo!

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>

A fair rebuttal :-)

Lyn J. Mangiameli

>

Re: Clay...

paul womack

>Rob Lee (te man himself) said:

Our particular solution uses nothing from any other marking gauge on the market.

I assume in reference to the micro adjust implementation.

It does bear a passing family resemblance to a wonderful gauge that was posted on Badger Pond a ways back. A woodworker specified it, and his machinst (or toolmaker?) father made it.

It was gorgeous. If the archive were online I'd link to it :-(

BugBear

I think I remember the same one, Paul

Andrew F in Australia

>A two wheel marking gauge, with the wheel furthest from the fence being supported on an inner arm that travelled through the outer beam upon which the second wheel was mounted.

The fence moved along a fine machine thread along the outer beam. The inner arm could be adjusted independently by winding a captive screw at the non-marking end of the outer beam - adjusted distance between the two wheels thereby adjusting width of mortice.

Hope I've described it well enough - had no fear of breaking patent law a/c it was already published in a (very) public domain.

Hope that this makes sense (and was this the one?)

Andrew

Re: I think I remember the same one, Paul

paul womack

>...was this the one?

Nope :-)

BugBear

Re: Clay... *LINK*

paul womack

>Personally - I[Rob Lee] find it far more "offensive" that our original gauge (among other tools) has been shipped to China (by another catalog operation (not Woodcraft or Rockler)) and directly copied (poorly) ...

I wonder who he means?

BugBear (guessing)


http://www.axminster.co.uk/default.asp?part=MG01

Paul...

Rob Lee

>...no - not Axminster....!

One of other consequences of having a Chinese company copy a product, is that sooner or later, it gets offered to (and picked up by) other companies...

Often too, a worker in one Chinese factory may send a new product to a relative who works in a completely different factory, who then starts producing the same item...think of a new product spreading like a virus, from factory to factory...

Cheers -

Rob

Re: Knock-offs *LINK*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Paul, probably Shop Fox, looks more like a pretty direct copy.

Pam


Shop Fox marking gauge

Re: Knock-offs

Russell Seaton

>Definitely the Shop Fox. Not the Axminster copy. At 14.18 Pounds, the Axminster retails for about $25 USA Dollars. About the same price as the Lee Valley wheel gauge with the graduated beam. Doesn't make much sense to produce an offshore copy that sells for the same price as the original. Of course the Lee Valley gauge might go for 30 Pounds in the UK so the Axminster would be much cheaper.

Tool prices can be very bizarre in the UK. Things made in mainland Europe can be more expensive in the UK than in the USA, by a large margin. And awhile ago Lie-Nielsen planes were cheaper in the UK than here in the USA. Etc. etc.

Hmm...

Rob Lee

>... not the "index" patient either....

Cheers -

Rob