Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

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I don't know why the pic presents sideways; it's upright on my desktop.(Peter?). The most difficult part for me was making the apron. I used the brick  layering method followed by cutting and wrapping veneer around the form. I do a good deal of turning, so turning the cabriole legs was not the hard part.

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Fabulous!  Beautiful!  I know about the brick pattern for the apron, but I would have never thought of using plywood for it.  Great idea! My Grandmother had a matching pair of similar tables and the brick pattern had photographed through the veneer.  I think the plywood stands a far better chance of success and never being seen again.  Nice work.

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Thanks for the upvote. It would seem that the only way the brick pattern could show throw through the veneer would be if the veneer was especially  thin. In my case, I re-sawed a "slice" of redwood veneer about 3/32 inch thick from a flat board. I hope there won't be a problem latter.

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But they are still sideways in my posts. Can you fix it so that they never get sideways?

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They look better now. I hope some people get inspired.

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Nice work, Eliot. I was interested in that photo of clamping your veneer to the curved form. You didn't mention how it turned out (it looked fine in the finish shot), but it looked like your clamping cauls were not in continuous contact with the veneer. This leads to  less clamping pressure in those areas, and can result in a bumpy or irregular curve. In your case, the thick veneer would have prevented some of that. My old go-to trick was always to cut several strips of Masonite the same width as the glue up, wax them thoroughly, and then clamp them around the outside of the veneer. Start clamping in the middle and work to the ends. The thickness of the Masonite pack provides continuous clamping pressure to the whole glueline.

I don't know if this would have made any difference in this case, but it's a tip to consider on future glue-ups like this one.

Ambitious work, nicely done. +1 on the upvote. Thanks for documenting and sharing.

Ellis

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Ellis, actually, I did EXACTLY  as you said when I actually glued it up.The photo is not the real glue up; it's a picture of what I did just to see how it would all fit. A little sanding got rid of some slight marring.

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I don't want to get caught saying something that's not entirely true: on second look,THAT photo is the actual glue up -- not just the dry run. If you look closely, there is a layer of material between the cauls and the veneer. I re-sawed some melamine covered hardboard to get what I needed. Not quite the same as waxing it, but the melamine serves the same purpose in not adhering to the glue.

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Eliot, that is fantastic! I hope to be capable of such excellent and advanced work at your age. You are an inspiration!

I like the idea of bricking. This is a method used by our absent friend, Bill. I shall use it in future. I’ve built a couple of demilune tables but laid up strips on a curved form, and this was so much work without a vacuum bag (the built is on my website but also in the Articles section, on WC). 

Regards from Perth

Derek

Norm begins to discover hand tools......

there are things here that will drive Derek bonkers (and people aware of safety)......

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Derek, I tried over and over to respond but couldn't. Finally switched servers to google chrome and now it seems to be working all right. 

My message is that your demilune  table looks perfect. And if I ever do another one, I would use square joinery at the apron, as you and old Normie did,  instead of cutting flats on the upper, onion-shaped part of my turned legs. That was difficult and resulted in a somewhat unsteady table, which I had to reinforce with a slat along the two rear legs.

As for inspiration, it goes the other way!

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 Same message that I posted to Derek. Except in your case I did listen to the Four Tops. You know I'm a classical guy, but I may learn something new. My granddaughters are real Swifties, and I have to admit that I must get out more.

Re: Demilune hall table with turned cabriole legs

Derek, I tried over and over to respond but couldn't. Finally switched servers to google chrome and now it seems to be working all right. 

My message is that your demilune  table looks perfect. And if I ever do another one, I would use square joinery at the apron, as you and old Normie did,  instead of cutting flats on the upper, onion-shaped part of my turned legs. That was difficult and resulted in a somewhat unsteady table, which I had to reinforce with a slat along the two rear legs.

As for inspiration, it goes the other way!

Eliot, we learn from each other. Roger posted a video by Norm, and I did one thing in common with him, laminating the apron.

Norm (from the video) ...

Mine (made in 2007) - Jarrah laid up in 2mm strips, all epoxied together ...

When we differed lies with the central leg, where Norm used mortice-and-tenon joinery ...

I made a bridle joint ...

What did you do?

I suspect that Norm's was a stronger design, but the bridle joints have endured.

The bead was made with a scratch stock ..

The ends were mortice-and-tenon ...

Can you add some of the joinery details from your build.

Regards from Perth

Derek

You being a classical guy, you might appreciate.......

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I have to from admit, that I get the same wonderful feeling when listening to him that I get from what I call classical. We have all lost a great crooner. Frank Sinatra said he was the best!

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Having just made one, I LOVED Normie's version! I had a harder time of it because of the turned legs, which were much more difficult to join to the apron. Also, my shape isn't circular; it's more of a 'D' shape; so cutting circles on the band saw was not an option. But good old Normie does not let me down. I do agree, though, that he is a bit fast and loose with his table saw technique. ( But, then again, so is Rob Cosman.)