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Another PackRat question...Dowels

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Another PackRat question...Dowels

A friend gave me a couple of bags of dowels, ready to use, about 1 1/2" long and various SAE diameters, maybe 1/4, 5/16 and 3/8".  Maybe 100 of each or more.  I am not a dowel guy so I am looking for a dowel guide.  Most of the reasonably priced ones are made in China and are metric.  The ones with American sizes are more expensive.  Anybody know of a good one at a reasonable price?

(The answer is to give them away or sell them or at worst throw them away.  Can't throw them away because I am a packrat and my frugal  Grandmother would spin in her grave.)


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On the rare occasion that I want to get rid of something, I take it to Restore/Habitat for Humanity


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#3

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I have a similar but worse dowel problem. Some years back I bought out a workshop from the widow of a serious woodworker. It had a 5 gallon can of 3/8" by 2" dowels. I still have most of them. 


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I have one very similar to one on eBay and I am very pleased with it.  eBay item number:175568528998


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Peter Martin

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Used to dowel 1/4”, 5/16”, 3/8”, 7/16”, and 1/2” holes

The one Ralph purchased and liked

They appear to be the same, but offered by different sellers.



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Ellis Walentine

Alternative

Barry, my preferred way to use dowels for construction is to make my own drill guide from a piece of hardwood for each specific situation. Decide on the dowel pattern you want to use, then drill corresponding holes in your wood block using a drill press to keep the holes perfectly perpendicular. Screw tabs or fences on as needed to keep registration accurate, and clamp the block to each workpiece for drilling. Krenov used this technique all the time.


 

Ellis


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ebd

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I have a Stanley 59 or 60 doweling jig. Never had an issue with it. I'd look online for a complete one (with all guides). Easy to use and precise and inexpensive.


 


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Peter Martin

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Stanley 60 doweling jig


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This is a good one, just look for the bushing variations - there's several versions of this jig with slightly different sets of bushings. 

Also, most people don't realize that this jig can be positioned off the center. There's a setscrew that makes a shaft to engage with both cheeks, when loosened the cheeks can be taken apart from the main body. If you put it back engaging one cheek, usually the one on the handle side, make a few turns (this will be your center offset) and engage the second cheek - it will position the body with the drill holes closer to other cheek. So, for example, it's totally possible to do a flush joint on parts of different widths, like an apron to a leg, or to add any amount of offset you want to create a shadow line. 

The best dowel drilling guide was manufactured by Marples. It's pretty much the same idea as in Krenov's makeshift guides, except made from steel and adjustable, works for up to 12" wide pieces. They still pop up on eBay


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Check if they are still round. Many dowels go oval because of drying, if yours did then just burn them, there will be either only two small glue areas or you risk splitting a part if you try drilling for a smallest diameter. Compressed dowels are less susceptible to becoming oval, but even they could stop being round. 

Also, 100 of each isn't that many, some projects could easily take 30-50 dowels (depends how you build, of course)


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And if one does not have a drill press the small ones sell for 20-40 bucks regularly.

I also have two the of silver and black ones.  I don't use them much, but they are my choice for a jig (the second one came in a 5 gal bucket of stuff a guy dropped off).

Two biscuits and a dowel wiill put a domino to shame, if not be anywhere near as easy to install.  Good for a low volume home shop.  Biscuits are super strong but they can blow out.  Dowels are bad at glueing, but have a good grain alignment for strength.  Generally 2 biscuits are enough.


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Best advice, as given is to trash toxic dowels.  However, you can align the wide part with the grain, J.  Alexander style.


 

Another option to move the jig, is just use a spacer.

If you want a Krenov guide that isn't makeshift, you can drill holes in Aluminum, a drill press cuts that stuff like butter, and insert dowel bushings for the drill bit.


 




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Peter Martin

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Jig comparison (video)


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Hey Tom, 

any recommendation for a good source of drill bushings? I was thinking about making my own doweling jig, the ones I have are a bit too loose to my liking. 


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