Hinge

Re: Hinge

Henry (Raleigh NC)

Set any deeper and the range of motion will be limited by interference of the door side and case side (I think, at least).

How does this swing now? At the 180 deg position, I would guess the door stile will be right up against the case side. So unless you want interference and limiting the swing, I think this looks perfect.

Of course I have limited experience with such things - we'll await someone with actual knowledge (to affirm or refute my postulations).

Henry

Re: Hinge

Sgian Dubh

It looks about right to me, and pretty much as I set butt hinges. As they're set now you'll get a little more than 180º movement, probably 185 - 190º before the edge of the hanging stile butts up against the carcass. There is a bit of flexibility in how much the leaf of a butt hinge might be inset from the outside corner of the door stile and the carcass, (or post or jamb, etc). You could, for example, set the leaf 0.5 - 1 mm or so further in from the outer corner of the door stile or carcass which would, for me, still be visually acceptable, but you would lose a few degrees of opening. I personally wouldn't want any more of the hinge knuckle showing. Slainte.

Re: Hinge

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

about 2/3 of barrel should stick out.

Quote from Whitechapel installation discussion," set a marking gauge to a measurement taken from the edge of the hinge leaf to a point just short of the center of the pin". The idea is that the center of the pin must be outside the edge of the cabinet

Depth

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

Set depth of mortise equal to 1/2 the barrel diameter minus a smidgen. If you get the mortise too deep shim under hinge with a piece of veneer.

Re: Hinge

Steve D, CT

It does look like it's out a bit far. Having the pin away from the edges gives you some leeway when opening to prevent overstressing of the hinge. Putting the edges at center will make the door contact the frame at 180.

You could always place the edges somewhere between the edge of the pin and center as a compromise.

Re: Hinge

Joe in a Cleveland suburb

Thanks guys, I feel better about the placement. Don't think I'll try to change anything and will proceed forward.

Re: Hinge

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

I feel better about the placement. You shouldn't. As stated in the Whitechapel installation instructions, " a butt hinge should function without drawing attention to itself. Stand back and look at the cabinet. If the hinges command attention take the time to move them in so they don't.

Re: Hinge

Wiley Horne

Agree. It’ll look great if you move it in so that you only see round barrel when viewing from front. In other words, no part of flat leaf showing from front.

Wiley

question

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

are the hinges in the picture installed or just positioned to see how they look. If installed they are not mortised deep enough. Door sets off from case too much if the picture is not fooling me.

Re: question

Joe in a Cleveland suburb

The two hinges pictured are both mortise into the door stile only. Not the case.

I used a trim router. Snuck up on the depth testing on scrap.

Re: Hinge

Joe in a Cleveland suburb

I see what you guys are talking about and agree. Minor adjustment...

Thanks.