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OT - Gluing glass

Curt Putnam

I have a Steuben Glass sculpture (Goose in Flight) which was a gift to my father on his retirmemt for which the right wing has broken off where it meets the body.

What is the best adjesive for glass?

I believe a repair has been attempted and failed. What is the best thing(s) to do to the surface priior to reattaching the wing?

Thank you for your help

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Pete in Holland MI

I would proceed this way:

1) Remove any traces of the previous adhesive.

2) Clean the area with alcohol.

3) Us a higher quality transparent epoxy. Fixture it to hold it in position as it cures. Don't touch it for at least 24 hours.

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Confirmed

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

There is a studio that makes fancy glass assemblies with glued up pieces. I asked what the used and clear epoxy was the answer.

Epoxy typically turns brown upon light exposure. So whatever epoxy was used was not typical. The shop artist was cagy about exactly what he used.

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Maybe this.... or something like it *LINK*

John in NM

Clear, hard epoxies are used in lapidary work, so that is where to look. I would use this over a product like Opticon which is intended to seal fractures in stones, wicking in by capillary action. Probably too thin for this repair.

This outfit also sells Attack, which is an epoxy debonding product. It may be used in other fields but I remember it from lapidary and jewelry work. I've never tried it, but my recollection is that it is nasty stuff, though very effective.


https://kingsleynorth.com/epoxy-330-tubes.html

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Clint Searl

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Clint Searl

There has been an ad running on Youtube for a glue that cures by UV that promises to bond anything. Supposedly a derivative of what dentists use for fillings.

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Garthfromsandiego

There is an optically clear uv-cured epoxy that is used to bond fiber optically parts. Been too long for me to remember the specifics, but you are on the right track.

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TomD

UV cures like Solarez can be purchased from amazon and fly tying stores. They use a UV flashlight to "instantly" cure the glue. Remarkable stuff that I would love to try, but the cost can be high (not for a little project, but they build whole bodies of lures of the stuff). It looks great in the vise but presumably all that clear glue disappears from view in the water. In theory the stuff should cure in sunlight but you need a really hard set up and apparently you need a light for that, or if you want hard in a decent period of time. Another group that uses this stuff are people who paint nails.

I suspect it would not work, but hide glue is so strong there is an art form where they paint it on glass and when it contracts/hardens it pops out chips in the glass. That is the 300 series hide glue. The wood stuff is in the 100 range and will not chip glass, but would it glue it?

Another theoretical option is to contact a someone in the area who does lampwork. These guys make stuff by melting glass in their lamp. You might be able to weld the part back on depending on dimensions and so forth.

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Curt Putnam

Thank you, gentlemen!

I have taken the astounding step of asking Steuben Glass if they do repairs, and if not what they recommend for an adhesive.

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NickinMass

Let us know what you hear (my youngest recently broke a glass ornament that she made when she was very young and I'd love to repair for her - I'm wary of cyanocrylate and the only non-yellowing epoxy I have uses a slow cure catalyst)

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Curt Putnam

Steuben does not have a repair capability but recommended someone that used to work for them. He uses UV curing adhesive. Claims he never had a piece fail after gluing.

Since he charges quite a bit and the shipping would a major issue, the total cost would approach the value of the piece. So now to hunt up UV curing adhesives and UV flashlights.

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Re: OT - Gluing glass  Watch chrystal glue

TomD

https://timeconnectioninc.com/144-crystal-glues

just happened to find this place relative to a watch band replacement...

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Joe Fleming

UV lights

Joe Fleming

I turn rings occasionally, and I use a UV coating for the glassy finish. To do the curing, I bought a fingernail polish UV cure light from Amazon to do the job. I left the ring on the lathe and mounted the light on a fixture, then set the lathe to a slow speed to turn in the light bath.

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John K Jordan

>>>I turn rings occasionally, and I use a UV coating for the glassy finish. To do the curing, I bought a fingernail polish UV cure light from Amazon to do the job.

Hey Joe, would you share the coating you use and cure light you bought?

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All of the old adhesive must be removed before the

All of the adhesive must be removed before the glueing. Soften the adhesive with paint and varnish remover then scrub with a toothbrush, scouring powder and water. Inspect and redo as necessary.

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John McGaw

Is it possible that the high-powered UV flashlight you have (IIRC) might work? My recollection is that they advertise it can be used for curing dental resins, possibly only if the higher-current battery has been swapped in. Don't know about the coating but a quick Google search turned up a number of possibilities, some of them on Amazon (of course).

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John McGaw

Whoops, I guess it wasn't you who posted about the UV flashlight a few months back. Dying brain cells, I suppose...

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