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Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses

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Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

Some weeks ago now, I became aware that my Festool CT26e vacuum cleaner was not sucking as strongly as it should ..


I have had the vacuum cleaner for about 5 years, and thought perhaps it was time to clean out the HEPA filter! This was done, and the performance seemed to return to original levels.

Just for reference, the HEPA filter looked pretty clean on one side, while the other was lightly dirty on the outside. Wacking it did dislodge a reasonable amount of dust from between the filter layers. One reason for the lighter-than-expected amount of dust was that it was used with a small cyclone, in this case, a Dust Commander. This replaced a Dust Deputy, which does not have anti-static properties.


All this got me thinking about what could be done to improve the hoses used. There are four in the collection: the standard (green) 27mm Festool; a 35mm (blue) Bosch, which is identical to the 36mm Festool at half the price; a (black) 27mm Mirka, which is dedicated to a Mirka Ceros ROS sander; and a 20mm (black) Mirka hose, which is for the Mirka hand sanders.


I became aware of these fancy new hoses from Festool, with smooth braided sides, and which were advertised for improved handling ...


Could the new hose design be different from the old hose design? It was interesting to look at the inside of my hoses. The ribs appear small - much smaller internally than suggested from the outside or if one looked at those hoses used in dust collection systems ...



I decided that it would not be cost-effective to replace the hoses for the braided exterior.

Then I came across a video of hoses being covered in the same material as those on the braided Festool, above. Rather than paying hundreds for a new hose, it would be possible to add a covering to each for about $10. Why do this? Because those damned ribbings catch when the hoses are slid along a bench top. This is an irritation when used with a sander, but dangerous when used with a router.

The woven covering is durable and said to offer a protective sheathing for the hoses. Where does one get these coverings? Just Google "BRAIDED HOSE SLEEVE KIT".

It looks like this. I chose black for all ...


Remove the fittings ...


Slide the hose in, tape down at one end, and then smooth it back to the start and pull tight ...


I used self-sealing tape ...


... and replace the fitting ...



Each hose was colour-coded for ease of recognition ...


I am now waiting on braiding for the Bosch hose ...


In use, the hoses are magic. They feel so nimble and easy to move around ... one is far less aware of their presence.

They come in all colours. The hoses covered all used a 25mm diameter for the 20 - 27mm covering. The 35mm hose will require a 50mm diameter.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses

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Which one did you buy?

Stephen Roth

Great post. I love these easy and inexpensive fixes to a minor nuisance we all deal with. Thanks.

Can you share which one you bought? My google search takes me down one of those rabbit holes that you probably already found the exit to!

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Re: Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses, and a question

Barry Irby

This looks great. My question is why not run the cord inside the sleave and leave a few inches out on each end?

I have a number of tools plugged in and I swap the Festool tools but I end with a tangled mess of cords from other tools I think it would help if the Festool cord were nicely attached to the hose and not available to mate with all the others.

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Re: Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses, and a question

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

Barry, I use the hoses with tools which use different cords. At least 3 different routers (two are Elu and one is a Makita trim) and 2 different ROS sanders (Festool and Mirka). The power cord arrangements are different for each. Consequently, hoses are used independently.

For those using one power cord system, it is certainly a consideration.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Re: Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses

jessecloud

I share Derek's experience with the braided sleeves. I got mine from ToolNut (Festoolproducts.com) in the US.

Easy to put on, makes using anything on the track much easier and safer.

Only caveat I would recommend is to double check size and length before ordering. Mine was a bit short. No problem with function, but it would look much neater if it went the whole distance of the hose as Derek's does.

You could probably get a better price at auto parts stores.

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Great Idea

Michael Todrin

Great idea Derek. Thanks for sharing

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Re: Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses

Don Stephan

Thanks for sharing D. Another benefit you didn't mention, I have noticed some of the external ribbing is wearing on my Festool hose. No doubt the sleeve material is much less expensive than a new hose, should it wear through.

Don Stephan

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We use a lot of that stuff at work

John in NM

Its called braided wire loom, or sometimes snakeskin loom.

I've not done any price comparing, but usually outfits selling a common bulk product for a specific application are marking it up, so bargain hunters should be looking at electronic and wiring suppliers rather than vacuum hose oriented vendors.

At work we get it from McMaster-Carr, but I'm sure there are cheaper sources than them. I've also used a rodent resistant version, it's brown in color and the plastic is supposedly infused with capsaicin to discourage chewing. We've actually had rodents chew through optical fiber bundles. My preference would have been to sheath with stainless braided loom, but I don't do the budgets!

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Re: We use a lot of that stuff at work

jessecloud

I'm a little dubious about the effectiveness of capsaicin in New Mexico. One night last year a strong wind blew down our ristra (string of dried red chiles). When I saw it the next morning there were mice all over it and about half the peppers were gone. They seemed to love it as much as we do.

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Shameless Plug *LINK*

Rick Christopherson

Pardon my shameless plug, but if you keep the hoses off the floor, the ribs won't catch on stuff as you move about. :D Granted, those new Festool hoses look great, and I wish I had a few. (They don't give me free stuff no more. >( )

After having Festool's monstrous ASA5000 boom arm in my workshop for the past 10 years, I decided to design a more economical and smaller version that the average woodworker could use in their own workshops. I thought about it for years, but all of the pieces finally came together last fall, and I started producing the Prometheus articulating boom arm. It's available in 6, 8, and 10 foot lengths.


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Re: We use a lot of that stuff at work

John in NM

Yeah, but our mice are mountain mice - they don't get a taste for chiles! :084:

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Re: Rick, I love it, but ...

Martin S.

Hey Derek, what is the accessory you have on top of your dust extractor? Did you buy that somewhere or build it from scratch? It looks like a separator for the bigger chips, and might make the bags last longer.

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Re: Rick, I love it, but ...

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

Martin, that is a small cyclone - the Dust Commander - which is similar to the Dust Deputy, however the DC is built from antistatic material, which is important with Festool vacs.


The cyclone empties into a steel paint bin (pail). The bin is lined with a plastic bag, and this makes emptying easy.

I have a small Festool systainer as a connector. This does double duty it houses connectors as well as the power transformer for a Mirka Ceros ROS ...


The cyclone/bin captures about 99% of dust and debris. The only time I filled the bag was when I forgot to empty the bin. Generally when I check the bag, there is nothing in it.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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