Underpricing ? *LINK*

Ikea look out!

something tells me...

David Weaver

...that site is harvesting credit card data and not shipping a whole lot.

I like the use of the word "glorious". Very North Korean.

Re: something tells me...

Barry Irby

I think they make up for the low prices by charging $4,000 shipping.

They recommend...

David Weaver

...paypal as the safest pay option, and then at the bottom of their page, it doesn't show up.

I did a google image search and found some of their pictures on pinterest.

I saw a fake site set up last week almost identical in format, but it had vintage guitars at about 1/3rd of the going market rate. I'd bet they got a lot of credit card information to sell.

Re: They recommend...

Lee Schierer in McKean, PA

I just put the $85 personalized whiskey barrel table in my cart and started checkout with phony information. The shipping for the table was free unless I wanted expedited shipment which added $6.90 to the cost.

I looked at the "About Us" page and the company has nothing to do with selling or making wood products. I would definitely stay away from this place.

Lee

Re: They recommend...

Larry Edinger

Scan, Scan

Re: Underpricing ?

paul in AZ

Nowhere on their site is there a physical address or a phone number.

I never deal with anyone that doesn't provide this info. That may not be foolproof but I think it cuts down on the chances of being a scam.

Site Closed Already

I'm trying to think this through . . .

Yonak

..So someone made all those things .. that must have taken some time .. all in order to scoop up some credit card numbers. ..But the site was only up for a few days. They couldn't have gotten much booty.

I wonder if they were closed by someone for some violation (I don't know whom it could have been) or if they meant to only be a short-lived enterprise. ..Or if they thought they could make a go of it but found the obstacles too great. The pricing seems very strange.

..Seems like a lot of work for small gain. The whole thing is confusing to me.

I recently bought a rolling cart on line (from a company, I found out later, was in China) for $9.95 plus $9.95 shipping. I never got it. The site closed. My credit card company refunded my money. I can't figure out the business model.

BTW

Mark Mandell - Gone Round In New Jersey

Look up "Sheesham" wood and you may get some insight as to where this was coming from.

Re: I'm trying to think this through . . .

jessecloud

Most likely the site never had anything to do with anyone who made furniture. They simply lift some pictures from the net and throw together a quick website. Their cost is next to zero. Since they recommended PayPal and the icon wasn't there, I suspect it was PayPal that caught on to them or had a complaint.

There are enough suckers out there for them to make a few bucks before they are caught and then do it all over again later in the day with a different name. With no cost for them, its a pretty good way to make a living.

Advice above is sound - never deal with anyone who doesn't show a physical address or contact information that can be verified.

different...

David Weaver

..the layout of this site and the wording looked close to the guitar site that I saw.

Nobody made anything. They copied a site template that's set up to harvest credit card data and took pictures from elsewhere.

At least some of those furniture pictures were just pulled off of pinterest.

If you're in north korea ("glorious") or delhi where a lot of the indian internet scams originate, then you work in a center that does legitimate and illegitimate computer work. You could set one of those sites up in a fraction of a day by just collecting pictures.

The furniture site could be used for car parts, or vintage audio equipment or whatever, and only the front facing pictures would need to change.

A friend of mine sent me a picture of a vintage les paul that would've been at least $20,000 for $7,000 or some such thing. the picture probably came from ishibashi or one of the foreign internet sites that does legitimately sell gibson guitars back to the US (they're worth more here) and thirded the price. They play on greed. This friend is on disability, has his credit lines maxed for various reasons and is always on the prowl for a guitar deal that he can make money on. I don't know what he did, but I told him I wouldn't give them my information as the site looked like it was just thrown together and he knows as well as I do that they could just get pictures from ishibashi or any of the euro or japanese sites.

In the day or two that a website is up, they get credit card and address information and now if it's one of the delhi computer scam groups, they have live addresses of known suckers (and probably IP address) and they can see if they can raid your computer or sell the list to people who might like to.

It's formulaic. Nobody was ever making any furniture. There's one for every buyer and enthusiast.

Bet there have been sites set up like that with McIntosh monobloc amps for 1/4th the going rate, too.

Just imagine...

David Weaver

..the value of getting the IP and mailing address (which can probably illegally lead to getting phone numbers) of individuals and having a saleable lead list for other scammers.

My dad got a back door virus from one of those goofballs last year, and he called them and allowed them onto his computer. He has no clue how to do anything at all on the computer and does all of his banking in person, so there's literally nothing on his computer other than a link to browsing sports sites. They must've hated it.

They told him that they could fix his computer for $299 and promptly got a browbeating from him that would've sounded like it came from Mr. Anderson on Beavis and Butthead. "now listen here, fellow. I didn't stand on a hay wagon in 1968 working summers between college putting bales up so that I could give some fellow $299 to push a few computer keys. Let me tell you about the value of a dollar and what I'm not prepared to pay. That is a ripoff. I would like to get you on a hay wagon". They got down to $99 but must've found his computer empty as they went no lower after that. He called to boast that he found a local guy who would remove the virus for $49.

I was a little more annoyed when I told him step by step what they do, and that they really had him on the phone so they could look through his computer to both get money from him and steal data.