What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Larry Clinton At Frankfort (Central)., Indiana

>I don't have the answer, but am also curious. I have a Unisaw I purchased about 3 ~ 4 years ago that was made in Tennessee. It has the Made in America label. I looked at the Delta equipment at the Indianapolis Woodworking show. Can't remember if any had the America label or not. I do know I was dismayed at the quality of the Delta 20" "industrial" band saw. I went to the show with cash - hopping to find a good buy on a 20" or larger saw. I pressed on the guide tube for the fence on that saw and the table moved a LOT with a small amount of force. Probably 1/16 to 1/8". Kept my money in my pocket and came home & ordered a MiniMax MM16. My son & I looked at the in-feed rolls on the Delta 15" planer, They are a joke - I don't think they would hold a 5lb. bag of sugar. As a bit of humor, I received the MiniMax this week - 5 days after ordering it. After my son & I un-crated it and had it setting on the shop floor, SWMBO walked in the shop. She looked at the saw, walked over and grabbed the table (she had attended the show with us and saw the Delta problem). She tried to move it, but it didn't budge at all. I think she moved up and down, but the table sure didn't. She had made the comment at the show that Delta equipment sure went downhill in the last few years. I am impressed with the MM16, The design and construction look excellent. The table is flat w/in .003 in all areas. The machine runs very quite, almost no vibration. Wife said she is glad I bought it instead of the machines we looked at in the show. I have the Delta Unisaw and a drill press. Doubt if I buy any more. Not sure if any of the Porter Cable stuff is made in the US any more.

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Mac

>Delta and PC both sold out to one of the overseas companies,,cant remember which one,Jet maybe?..Only thing I know of thats still made here is Milwaukee......getting to be pretty sad state of affairs...

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Vijay Kumar

>Delta, Porter Cable are now owned by Black and Decker. Sorry to bring this to your attention. And Powermatic is owned by Jet, which is part of a global tool company WMH.

I dont know of any pure mass ww machinery made in the US anymore. Some General machines are still made in Canada last I looked.

Vijay

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

tim mathis

>hi, this turned out so far, to be not true. on 10-18-2006 i attended a router / dovetailing demo at woodcraft in centerville, ohio given by scott phillips half way through it he said (to the 30 to 40 people that were there)that delta is going to be having a 9 % price increase because they were bringing production back to the U.S. and a large number of machinist were needed in TENN.he stated that he had been told this by delta executives in a meeting the week prior .when i got home i posted this on sawmill creek as i for one was happy to hear this. i believed him or i would not have posted it.people who responded to my post e-mailed him and delta as far as i know neither responded.

i know this does not answer your question , i had hopes for this company to come back to the U.S. at least for about a week.

Made in the US?

Falberg saw Co

>My tools are "Made In USA" and I'm looking to hire some help. The jobs pay $50/week. Interested?

Re: Made in the US?

Norman (Ottawa, Ont.)

>I looked into this very same subject back in 2001 when I purchased my Unisaw. Every component of the Unisaw was USA made at the time according to Delta in Tennessee.

That was then. Today I don't know any more. I would say the bulk of it is USA made today unless someone knows otherwise.

Something else, you need to distinguish the Unisaw from other Delta "cabinet-like" saws. These other saws are probably imported although they might look like a Unisaw.. It really needs to say "Unisaw" to be a Unisaw

Norman

Norman

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Thomas Skaggs, Foothills of Mount Level

>I don't know the extent of Delta's line manufactured there but the Tupelo MS plant is where my steel bed lathe was made. That plant is still Delta's primary US manufacturing plant I believe.

Tom

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Binen

>MONEY

Binen

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Binen

>Now that answer was meant to be a bit flippant; however, that is the reason why Delta is in business. Without making money Delta will fast become just another piece of old iron. Truth is 95% of the tool buying public looks at only one feature for a tool�PRICE. Delta had to make a decision, stay in business by finding lower costs of manufacture or go out of business. I see it not only here on Woodcentral but any message board daily, �where can I find X for the cheapest price.�

People who do not shop by price also do not buy Delta products. Why do you think Festool, Laguna, Nova and others have a marketplace? People who buy these tools look for quality first not price.

With the majority of people who buy products from Delta concerned about price first. Delta had to reduce their cost of manufacture.

Binen

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Howard Acheson

>>> Delta and PC both sold out to one of the overseas companies,,cant remember which one,Jet maybe?..Only thing I know of thats still made here is Milwaukee.....

Pentain sold their Delta and PC business to Black & Decker, a US company with manufacturing world wide.

Milwaukee was some a couple of years ago to OWT/TTI who owns Ryobi among other old line US firms. Ryobi is the manufacturer of many of the Sears and Ridgid stationary power tools. Ryobi has some US based manufacturing in South Carolina.

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

DAUTTERGUY

>I opped for the General 350,expressly for this. If Delta IS COMMING BACK TO THE U.S.A. I will reconcider buying thier products. But as of now I check first,Grown in Ca,Fla. etc.Made in the U.S.A.

General---General International.

Bob Dodge

>I think General handled off-shore manufacturing better than anybody. They had the good sense to not cheapen an already established quality name-brand and product, by maintaining the "General" brand-name, and distinguishing the off-shore machinery with the "General International" brand. I'll never for the life of me, understand why Delta didn't follow suit.

I think Delta did a lot of damage to their own very well-established reputation, by continuosly cheapening the product (in some cases). I paid a premium for all American-made versions some time back, and the re-sale value of those machines, has probably dropped considerably because of Deltas' price-cutting practices. Not good for Delta, and certainly not good for their loyal customers.

Delta, has always been a very innovative company, amd unfortunately, many of the off-shore machines are inexpensive clones of Delta designs. Still, when you take a very close look under the hood, Delta still manages to produce excellent products. Many of the so-called "clones", look the same from the exterior, but, there are still differences to be seen with the Delta machines.

Two examples are the 14" bandsaw, and the 15" planer. Just about everyone copied the Delta planer, but not necessarily "identically". Take a peek at the chip-breaker tabs (3 heavy-duty tabs), and compare that to some of the clones, who may use a single light-duty tab.

The Delta 14" bandsaw, has been "cloned" by almost everybody, yet, take a look at the manner in which Delta arranges the lower thrust-bearing and blade-guides. Deltas' arrangement is unique. They place the thrust-bearing under the blade-support guides, allowing the blade-support guides to be placed much closer to the underside of the table. Far better blade-support, especially with curved work. It would be very difficult to beat the Delta when it comes to "cutting to a line".

Delta certainly still continues to make some excellent machinery, with many choices as far as options/ electricals go. I think Delta has to distinguish those higher-end products from the "budget-priced" machines.

Bob

Re: What's left of Delta still made in the US?

Bill White

>Delta closed the Tupelo plant. It was opened in 1952 I believe. Everything went to Jackson, TN. Sad day here in Tupelo 'cause Delta was a real stanby, clean industry. Wanna buy a swell mfg. facility? I can connect you with the Community Dev. Foundation.

Bill in Tupelo

Re: Looked at Delta Machinery web site

Larry Clinton At Frankfort (Central)., Indiana

>The have a "virtual" look at the machines. I rotated the X5 Unisaw photo and several other machines (DJ20 and other "top of the line") and there is no sign of the large "Made in USA" label that is very apparent on my Unisaw. I also did a search on the site using "made in America". A lot of old press releases were listed - but I did not find any current listings or statements that the current product line has any connection to that phrase. Sad.

IMHO, I would rather buy Grizzly, Jet or Yorkcraft - at least they admit they are import / clones. I don't believe the company will find the outsourcing as profitable as they envision. When I bought my Unisaw, it was quite a bit higher than the Grizzly and other import clones. Had the Unisaw been an import, I would have purchased a General or Powermatic (made in America then). Not sure about Powermatic now, think it is currently imported / Jet clone.

Re: Looked at Delta Machinery web site

Charles Self

>About 2-1/2 years ago, the Powermatic 66 and one of the shapers were still made in Tennessee. I visited the factory and saw the line. Everything else was made in Taiwan or China.

I don't know if the 66 and the planer have moved on at this point.

Who cares? and Why???

Jesper, Denmark

>If it is the quality and price you are satisfied with, why bother about where it is made?

Nobody seems to talk about their computers made in Taiwan, Malaisia or China. Televisions from Korea. VW from Mexico, Shoes form Vietnam, Ford and GM vehicles form Canada, 4x4 vehicles from England, Germany or Korea. Oil from Saudi Arabia and Venezuala

I could go on and on, so why is it that WW should be made in the USA?

Re: Who cares? and Why???

Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.

>I did post a response, but somehow it's not there... I can't think of anything in my post warranting it to be pulled out, so I'd like to know if that was the case before trying again...

DC