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controlling humidity in the shop

vlparisian in cold and wet Houston

>Yesterday morning I went to my garage shop and found that a 5' x 2'x 11" deep wall cabnet with doors had crashed to the floor overnight leaving the back still hanging on the wall. The previous day I had noticed that the center (only) shelf was sagging, which I thought was a bit peculiar since there wasn't that much heavy stuff on it.

Note, this unit has been on the wall for about a year now. I salvaged it from a remodel project at an office building. Construction is/was of particle board (Not MDF)the exterior was nicely laminated and the hardware was of decent quality. I salvaged the hardware and the doors the rest went out to the curb.

I think this is a direct result of all the rain we have had in Houston lately.

Outside tempurature has been about 30 to 45 degrees for the past week or so. I have been leaving the electric heaters on in my shop to keep the temperature around 55 degrees F at night and during the day when I'm elsewhere and turn it up to about 65-69 when I'm working.

Questions: Does this (running the heaters) add to the humidity problem? How best to contol the humidity otherwise?

Regards,

Victor - in cold and damp Houston with no end in sight.

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Ed Mulligan, Cape Cod

>I don't think humidity caused your cabinet collapse. Sounds more like poor workmanship or design (or both). On Cape Cod (eastern MA) the outside humidity is at present the same as yours. Inside it's ~ 35%. Nothing is falling apart here :)

Heating your shop will lower the humidity, all else remaining unchanged.

When it's too dry in my shop, which has an unsealed concrete floor, I just throw a bucket of water on the floor. For humid weather which is June thru October here,I run a small dehumidifier. Ambient humidity in summer runs 80% or so. With the dehumidifier I can bring ot down to 60%. It adds a lot to the electric bill but is worth it IMO.

Ed

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Brian F Philipp

>Agree with your other posting. The failure was workmanship related. Go to Sears or Lowes and get a 40 pint dehumidifier (w/casters)and an auto cutoff feature. During the humid summertime run it twice a week for 6-8 hrs. I have a basement shop in the humid St Louis area, it works great for me.

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Mike From MN

>I agree that humidity was not the cause of the shelving collapse. It is very hard to control humidity in a garage unless you have a good vapor barrier on the walls and ceiling, and some very good weather srtipping around the doors. Heating the space does as much as anything to reduce the Relative Humidity % a dehumidifier does remove water vapor from the space it is in however it also adds heat to the space and I believe the heat is what changes the RH% as much or more than the small amount of water that is removed. In a typical garage there is so much leakage that I doubt that any small dehumidifier wouldn't keep up with the leakage. What does change is the space temperature increases and that in effect reduces the RH%. So I would say don't spend the money on a dehumidifier use a heater, gas or electric and just raise the space temperature above the outdoor conditions by at least 5 degrees and you will see a reduction of RH. The dehumidifier is like a heatpump in this application and would be more energy efficent Watts or BTU's output is generally more than the input by a factor of 1.5 to 2, and electric heater is 100% efficent however you only get a Watt out for every Watt of input.

By raising the space temperature 10 degrees, lets say from 50 degrees and 40%RH to 60 degrees you will reduce the RH% by 10% if you raise the temperature from 50 to 70 degrees in the space the RH% reduction is very close to 20%. If the garage is at 90% RH and 50 degrees and you heat the garage to 70 degrees the RH would be very close to 45% and this isn't removing any water, just adding heat.

Sorry for getting so longwinded.

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