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kinf of OT- DIY Ultimate Elec Toolbox

Joe Piotrowski - Chicago Burb's

>greeting everyone,

since we have a wide array of talented visitors I would like to pick your brain. I will post several of these ultimate toolbox questions.

in order to organize my non wood working tools into self contained DIY toolboxes One for every major task. loaded with tools and the essential fittings extra's you always need. I need a way to make it more portable and manageable. for now I will just use some store bought tool boxes because I really want to over engineer hand made toolboxes after my shop is back up and running. but that is a story for another thread :)

so I want to compile a well stocked electrical toolbox to handle things like repairing a chord, running some wire, outlets, switches, ceiling fans etc.

I have so far:

assorted wire nuts

Assorted crimp connectors( splices etc.)

small wire cutters

lineman pliers

needle nose pliers

couple of screw drivers

wire strippers

voltage tester

outlet tester

GFCI tester

a nut driver for couplings. what size?

extra screws for outlet boxes. what thread are these?

anything else?

TIA.

Joe P.

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Ernie Miller

>electrical tape. I know but there is time when you want to have some handy. maybe a plug for a lamp, receptical and a switch also.

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It doesn't matter

Mark Goodall - ATL - tooljunkie

>No matter how much you put in, you'll be missing something.

My wife says I'm the king of dedicated tool boxes.

I've got the major electrical repair, the minor electrical repair, the plumbing, the major painting, the mior painting box...... I have the tool box for the motorcycle, the tool boxes for the automobiles, the emergency tool boxes for the car, van and emergency tool boxes on the bicycles. That's just some of the toolboxes I have in the house/workshop. I won't bore you with the rest.

For my work, I don't do ALOT of manual fixing of things, but I must keep a major wiring, minor wiring, minor PC/Server pair box, plus a network troubleshooting toolbox, you get the idea. If you call CD/DVD boxes a tool box, I've got the OS/AntiVIrus repair case, the odd hardware drives case, the frequenly needed CD case, the MS-ACtionPAck case..... I have a laptop case with all the necessary wires and hardware to setup a mini network whereever I am, I've got another network in a case box with equipment to make a test network, I've even got a case with a monitor,keyboard,mouse to use when fixing headless servers.

Al this rambling to say..... no matter HOW well prepared I think I am (I even have a case for blank media) 25% of the time I find myself need ONE MORE DARN THING.....

No matter WHAT we do..... we'll always need one more darn thing that we don't have in our tool box.

Same is true in the technology toolboxes, liek our laptops.

HAppy Woodworking!

I have one tool box for each task, some tasks require two boxes. THe newer soft

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Golf Channel—What's in the Bag?

Rod Peterson -- Ormond Beach

>First, before I get started on the electrical, let me tell you that I use five gallon pails for my toolboxes. I started doing that years ago when the condo was being painted and I could pick up a couple or three empties a day. I have one each for electrical, concrete finishing, phone/AV, drywall, plumbing, wallpaper, tiling, turning accessories, safety equipment, and so on. I actually have a couple of subsets, like general plumbing in one and minor plumbing in the other (½" and ¾" copper fittings and tools). Of course some tools like darbies, screeds, pole sanders, closet augers, conduit benders, etc., don't really fit in the pails, so they just have to be carried separately.

The stuff in the elecrical pail is fish tape, DMM (multimeter), and some other bulky stuff. My everyday kit is a bag with pockets and a handle, and it represents about the third or fourth generation for me of electrical tool kits. I used to put everything in a belt pouch, but it got just too heavy and inconvenient (and bad in a crouch down attic for spilling parts or tripping you).

In my bag are:

  • ¼" flat screwdriver

  • #2 Phillips screwdriver

  • 316" flat screwdriver

  • #1 Phillips screwdriver

  • speed driver, flat

  • speed driver, #2 Phillips

  • 10-n-1 screwdriver

  • conduit screwdriver

  • #1 Robertson (square drive)

  • #2 Robertson (square drive)

  • ¼" nut driver (red)

  • 516" nut driver (yellow)

  • Lineman's pliers (aka side cutters)

  • large diagonal pliers

  • smaller diagonal pliers

  • needlenose pliers



 

  • very small screwdriver

  • wire stripper

  • crimper/machine screw cutter

  • non-contact electrical tester

  • plug in electrical tester

  • water pump pliers

  • electrical tape

  • utility knife

  • electrician's knife

  • tape measure

  • bag of wire nuts (yellow)

  • bag of ground wire nuts (green)

  • bag of ground pigtails

Everything in the left column is a Klein product. I really like their tools. The very small screwdriver is unbranded—probably a giveaway from somewhere—but it's the perfect size to get to the release tab on backstab fixtures (don't use 'em, just have to unhook them to discard them).

The two large screwdrivers are specialty electrician's screwdrivers and have a small projection at the blade end of the handle used to trap a piece of wire while you turn a loop around the blade. Very handy.

The 10-n-1 is a late addition to the collection. I sort of bought on a lark figuring it couldn't be that good. If I were starting over today, I might carry it and discard about six others.

The conduit screwdriver (my label) is designed to use on conduit clamps or similar ones with an exposed box head screw. You can really bear down on it, and because the blade is shrouded, you won't slip off the screw (ask any old conduit guy about that).

I have two knives because I've always had an electrician's knife in my kit, and I wound up with a spare utility knife and an empty pocket. Seemed like a good marriage.

My wire stripper allottment is actually much larger. The one listed is one of those automatic ones where you stick the wire between two serrated blocks and into the appropriate notch, then squeeze the handles and it cuts the insulation and strips it off the wire. I use it the most. The crimper also has stripper notches on it, but the auto one is the one I always reach for. I once bought a Klein stripper, which is nice, but I rarely use it.

Water pump pliers should need no justification, but if you're curious, I like them for tightening the locknuts on romex clamps or conduit connectors. Richard Tretheway of This Old House says they can't even get their trucks started without water pump pliers.

Rod

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thanks guys! LOL at some of it.

Joe Piotrowski - Chicago Burb's

>I hear you Mark. but I have to try. one big tool box is getting to heavy lift around.

Rod, nice list. thanks, that must have been some work. I knew this place has all the answers :)

as side note sometimes life is brighten jup by the simple joy of using well constructed tools. klien makes fine products.

but for me, it's the Robertson screws. I was putting up adjustable shelves. I used the regular wood screws. well the had a deflect so I took them back and exchanged them. I stopped and picked up the only square drive at the big box. spax combination square/Phillips. even at a combination they are 100 times better than Phillips.

I have a 12v Hitachi. 24 chuck settings. normally the Phillipsslips out and I need a moderate 12 or so setting to drive 1.5 to 2 screws.

with the square drive and the spax self pilot screw set the chunk at 1 and drive all the way home.

more torque less slippage. made the finish of the project smooth.

I look forward to more posts :)

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Re: Golf Channel�What's in the Bag?

Mike G. in SC

>The screws you were asking about are size...6/32 by whatever length you need. I just bought some that were 3/4" long to fix what a "qualified" electrician had used to install my "weatherproof while in use" cover over my 30 amp RV outlet. They had used no 6 sized course thread drywall screws to fasten the cover and outlet to the weatherproof box. Needless to say, they broke off a couple screws in the holes, got a couple of them to stay and called it good. I had to buy another box and fix their job. (I just can't let the building codes dept. director know I touched it without an electrical contractor's license. :( He is such a Putz.)

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David Sparks

>I recently did a lot of electrical work in my garage. In addition to improving my shop functionality greatly, I was able to buy several new tools and books. One very helpful book I bought is titled " Wiring a House" by Rex Cauldwell. Mr. Cauldwell does an excellent job of explaining how to wire a house correctly and, most importantly, safely. The book has a section on which tools you will need and why. I went to Lowes and bought some tools, many of them Klein brand which are outstanding. Ebay is another good source. Every time you do a job you will think of a tool that you need. Doing the work is the best way to discover what to add to your tool arsenal.

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