OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/13/07, 5:35 PM #1

Don Henthorn
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OT: I am re-designing my web site

Don Henthorn

>and also re-learning html.(forgot most of what I knew.) It appears that the experts now frown on the use of frames for setting up the Index file or "home page" as I call it. What is the accepted method of setting up such a file that allows some flexibility but doesn't require an html major degree?

Re: OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/13/07, 6:02 PM #2

Mark Goodall - ATL - tooljunkie
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Several ways.... *LINK*

Mark Goodall - ATL - tooljunkie

>Yes, frames are ancient and bad :) They are 10+ years old.... in computers years that's about 200 years old.

Depending on what server you are using (UNIX-PHP or Windows-ASP) you can use SSI and what program you are using (Notepad, SiteBuilder(s), FrontPAge, Dreamweaver)..... you can use SSI (Server Side Includes) or PHP/ASP based includes (where you keep repeating code, like the header/footer code in a separate file(s) and then each page "includes" them as appropriate) or better yet FrontPage and/or Dreamweaver Templates (not to be confused with PreBuilt website templates that come free with (shudder) those DIY-in-15-minute web hosting packages, or can be purchased (and used with Dreamweaver, etc).

You might be interested in my latest idea www.woodworkergallery.com

which is sort of inbetween the cookie-cutter (cheap but limited) DIY sites that everyone offers, and the completely custom (expensive but unlimited) web site that either you build or someone like I build for you. Typically all those cookie-cutter sites offer ways to easily build/keep catalogs, galleries,shopping carts, etc but yuo are limited in what you can do to your site. I've built something similar, but it can be tied into your own custom website. Hard to explain in words. Take a look. I'm working on a way that you could take a demo ride.

Happy Woodworking!

www.woodworkergallery.com

Re: OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/13/07, 8:13 PM #3

Don Henthorn
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Thanks , Mark. I'll look into some of those idea.

Don Henthorn

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Re: OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/14/07, 12:02 AM #4

Dan Donaldson
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Re: Several ways....

Dan Donaldson

>One problem is that many ISP's don't allow SSI. I know that the Yahoo business sites do not. Sure wish they did, as it can make a big difference in performance.

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I have been woodworking for about 25 years now, and would consider myself an enthusiastic amateur. My claim to fame (or infamy) has always been fixing stuff. I spent time in the Air Force in the 60's then went to work as an electronic technician for civil service. I finally got my EE, and being fed up with the civil service nonsense, took a job with Ford Motor Company until I went with the split to Visteon last year. I got interested in music and started playing in a bluegrass band. I wanted a new guitar, and that kind of led me into woodworking. I bought some books, a few tools, and built a guitar. Luckily, I didn't know any better than to try that as a first ever project. I still play it when I get a chance, so it must not be too bad if it can live for over 20 years. After a stint in Mexico for my job, I moved into a new house and built a small shop. Since then I have been collecting tools and skills, probably more of the former than the latter ;-). Finding this site has done more for my skills and enjoyment than anything else. I have learned a lot and really enjoy the friendships that I have made here. I have been married to LOML (Lori) for 32 years now and have 6 kids. When they are all gone, I want to get a 1 bedroom house (so there is not room for them to move back in) and at least a 6 car heated/air conditioned garage for a shop. (Dream on...)

Re: OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/14/07, 3:48 AM #5

Don Henthorn
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Thanks, Dan. From what

Don Henthorn

>I have read today I have decided I don't need frames. Things appear to have changed quite a bit since I last fooled with html. I am also slower learning, but I have found several tutorial sites which are helping. Most of them are pretty sketchy though.

Re: OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/14/07, 4:06 AM #6

Dan Donaldson
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Re: Thanks, Dan. From what *LINK*

Dan Donaldson

>Depending on how much effort you want to put into it, you may want to look into using css to format your page. It gives you a lot of flexibility, and many sites are beginning to go that way. I am posting a link to a site I put together for Dale Lenz. It is run completely by CSS. No tables or frames and the text formatting etc. are all done in CSS. Look at the page source to see what the code looks like.

Dale's Site

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I have been woodworking for about 25 years now, and would consider myself an enthusiastic amateur. My claim to fame (or infamy) has always been fixing stuff. I spent time in the Air Force in the 60's then went to work as an electronic technician for civil service. I finally got my EE, and being fed up with the civil service nonsense, took a job with Ford Motor Company until I went with the split to Visteon last year. I got interested in music and started playing in a bluegrass band. I wanted a new guitar, and that kind of led me into woodworking. I bought some books, a few tools, and built a guitar. Luckily, I didn't know any better than to try that as a first ever project. I still play it when I get a chance, so it must not be too bad if it can live for over 20 years. After a stint in Mexico for my job, I moved into a new house and built a small shop. Since then I have been collecting tools and skills, probably more of the former than the latter ;-). Finding this site has done more for my skills and enjoyment than anything else. I have learned a lot and really enjoy the friendships that I have made here. I have been married to LOML (Lori) for 32 years now and have 6 kids. When they are all gone, I want to get a 1 bedroom house (so there is not room for them to move back in) and at least a 6 car heated/air conditioned garage for a shop. (Dream on...)

Re: OT: I am re-designing my web site

1/14/07, 1:48 PM #7

Paul D. May
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Re: Several ways....

Paul D. May

>You have a typo on your website Mark. Can you find it?

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