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Cordless Power Drill Experience?

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Cordless Power Drill Experience?

Robert Hutchins

>My old (more than 10 years) DeWalt 12V has developed power switch problems and the current battery seems on its last legs. Given the advances in tool and battery technology, I'm thinkin' it's time to reinvest. Before I do, I thought I'd ask the assembled company for their experiences and advice.

I use it for occasional jobs around the house, but that might stretch to building pergolas and other more robust tasks than hanging pictures or curtain rods. I want something that will remove a lot of the muscle power requirements when I have to drive a lot of, or very long, screws (use a brace and bit otherwise). Of course it should be capable of handling the more mundane, less labor-intensive tasks, too.

The 12-volt unit has occasionally been too little power with the DeWalt. From what I read, 14.4V is the current size generally recommended for purposes for which I intend to use it. Given an infrequent need, the price must be attractive - this thing isn't going to earn any income. I don't need the invincibility of an Abrams M1A2. I'd like to have something ergonomically friendly meaning not too heavy (rules out the 18V units I've handled) nor hard to hold with good access to reversing switch and torque control. Good torque and adequate speed, with good variability controls are required.

The Hitachi 3/8" 14.4V (though uglier than most Nike's) seems to be priced right and handles well. I've also used someone else's Porter Cable (don't know its voltage or model number) that felt good in the hand and got the job done for me. From what I've seen, Panasonic and Milwaukee are good drills but too expensive for my needs. I've had problems with too many DW tools to want to go down that path again. I simply will not buy B&D or Rigid for political reasons.

I've read a lot of what google has to offer, but find most of the sites too information poor or too biased towards wares being pushed. Have I already made up my mind or can someone give me compelling arguments to consider other units?

TIA

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John in Kerrville TX

>Robert, I have the Hitachi 12 Impact Driver, 2.0 AH batteries. This thing will drive 10" GRK fasteners to the full depth. It built a deck and pergola with no hesitation.

It has sank several hundred screws without pause.

Downside? it is not great for drilling holes since it does not come with a chuck, but there are hex shanked bits and you can get an aftermarket chuck.

Just my $.02

john

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Garrett in Victoria BC

>I gave each of my sons a Hitachi 14.4 drill last year. Both have built decks. In general, Hitachi tools offer a lot of value for the price.

Cheers, Garrett

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Re: Buy a DeWalt 12V impact kit *LINK*

Grant Smith(remove 1 for email)

>I suggest your upgrade and reinvest on a 12v impact driver kit. This will give you a GREAT impact driver for use on driving screws and also fresh batteries and a new charger to keep your old drill afloat.

I have both a drill like yours and a 12v impact and the little impact is INCREDIBLE. Definately in my top ten favorite tools of all time, and no other cordless tools (and I have several) make the list.

Use Froogle.com or Ebay and you should be able to find one for under $200 delivered. Less if you are OK with reconditioned.

I can't say enough about an impact driver. The 12V DeWalt will run circles around any 18V drill/driver on the market in terms of driving screws...and it is easier on your wrist, less weight, and the screws don't tend to cam out.

Another option would be to check the link below for a total replacement from Makita for $209 + shipping if your drill is dying...


Makita kit at Amazon

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arw01

>I am even behind you in drill technology. My power drills consist of a pair of B&D 7.2v drills that have served me pretty well over the years. I did buy a pack of batteries off ebay recently.

Fast forward, a friend gave me his 18v craftsman which I have been using for putting the ceiling into my new shop. It's reasonably heavy, but plenty of power for my use.

I also picked up yesterday a Kawasaki set with 2 18v batteries and the blo-case for $19.99 at SpokaneDiscount. The first battery charged 15 hours and lasted about 12 counter sink holes before starting die off. I've not put the second battery in. These are made by alltrade. If the second and third charges die off also, I will return it for the store credit.

Alan

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Ryobi

Joe Pack

>If you are not looking for "industrial," take a look at the Ryobi at HD. I have a 12v Ryobi that is my "reach for" drill for the kind of light work you are talking about, but also served me well in building a small shed in the back yard. It is lightweight, which is great for my arthritic hands and messed up rotator cuff shoulder.

The new Ryobi tools have a 2 yeaar warranty, I think.

Disclaimer: I also have a 14.4 v Milwaukee and a 14.4v Rigid for heavier work, plus the odd corded monsters for REALLY heavy work (don't do that much anymore).

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2nd. best bang for the buck

Joe Piotrowski - Chicago Burb's

>I spent twice as much on a Hitachi and I am very disappointed compared to the ryobi I had. the roybi had better power and battery life.

I just saw a display of there(roybi) 1+ system nd they have a very nice impact drill driver on sale

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Pete

>I bought a reconditioned 12 volt DeWalt impact driver from Tool King last year. It quickly became my driving tool of choice. Light weight, small size, plenty of power and quick charging. As stated before, you can buy aftermarket hex shanked bits or a chuck for drilling. No clutch, so you have to learn the "touch" or you may drive your smaller screws completely through your work piece. I have an 18 volt Ridgid drill which works great but quickly tires out my arm, especially when using it overhead.

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Joe Piotrowski - Chicago Burb's

>you might want to check out some of the impact drill drivers. 2 functions for the price of one:). what could better that that?

I saw a demo of these units and man they drive the long screws in without stripping the heads, like butter!

I just bought an ugly 12v Hitachi. It was on sale and I like my M12v so i figured I would splurge and get a better drill than I normally buy. it wasn't worth it. I just drilling some holes for shelf standards and it was weaker than my old ryobi 12 v. and it's battery was just charged.

Maybe there 14v models are better so test one if you can. I think I will stick to 30 and 40 drills they last 2 or 3 years. buy that time a 30 or 40 dollar drill is twice as nice as my current one.

I guessing the total cost of ownership is cheaper going at the low end. I want to try one of those fancy new ion types.

good luck with the drill hunting!

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Mark from Sacramento

>I have a DW 14.4 that also seems a bit underpowered at times. I also bought a 12V DW impact driver and it is just amazing. It's light and has incredible driving power. Buy it and you can then swap batteries as you need to.

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Re: Ryobi

Bill Schreiber, Litchfield, NH

>I have a Ryobi 12V from HD which I am happy with. I use it around the house and the occassional heavy duty job and it works great. The one I have is my second that the batteries went on after 7 years of home-hobbiest kind of use. The batteries were more expensive to replace than buying new hence the new one.

Good luck no matter what you do.

Regards,

Bill

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Re: Similar Power Drill Experience

Glenn Madsen near San Francisco

>The first one I bought was a DeWalt 12v 1/2" chuck drill/driver. Using that one on a good-sized project wore out my elbows, wrists, shoulder & back, but the screws went where they were supposed to, and the rascal is still working, 5 or 6 years later. I bought a 12v 3/8 shank driver for 'more usual' tasks, same DeWalt line, and use that a lot more frequently.

What REALLY gets used for driving screws is the 12v Bosch Impact driver I bought a couple of summers back. THAT really works, and doesn't screw up my arm parts, with the torque backlash. About $150, IIRC (and I might easily not), but money well spent. Great battery life, although no interchangability with the others. But no real need, either.

I'm a hobby guy, mid-fifties, who builds furniture for fun, and fixes up houses & yards for family and friends.

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Ryobi One+

Don in Northern Arizona

>Inexpensive and powerful (18 volts). The battery two-pack is cheap too. Once you have the drill and batteries you can add a whole bunch of compatible tools. I bought one when my old Makita 9.6 volt couldn't pull the screws out of the wall holding my old lumber rack. I needed something strong and cheap in a hurry, so I bought one at HD, and I have been happy with it ever since. Not for a contractor, but it works for me.

Don

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Thanks for the Info!

Robert Hutchins

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Re: Buy a DeWalt 12V impact kit

John in Calgary

>I bought one of these Makita impact/drill kits with the 2.6 Ah batteries (and a 3.0 3rd battery from a no-name supplier) and have no complaints other than the weight of the 1/2" drill. Once you've tried an impact, there is no going back - I used the drill on the weekend so I wouldn't wake up my daughter from her nap and it was constantly spinning in the screwhead, but when I cracked out the impact after her nap, it just pounded it away. Working up on the roof with my F-I-L, I pounded at least 75 3" screws on one charge through the course of a weekend putting up rafters.

If you do go impact, 14.4V seems the better bet - you get the same torque, but because of the higher voltage the batteries definitely last longer than the 3.0 Ah batteries in the 12V B&D I used to have.

John

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