grain direction?

Re: grain direction?

Fred Holder

>If hollow forms were done face grain, it would take a very large tree to make some of the tall vessels that people make. You can get a taller vessel out of a smaller tree by making it endgrain.

Some bowls are made from endgrain; however, they are more fragile. It would be easy to pop the bottom out of them if they were dropped on the floor or simply plopped down on a counter. Also, endgrain is more difficult to hollow with normal bowl turning tools.

Re: grain direction?

Duane C.Leach

>I hate to disagree with you Fred. I have turned many open ,salad bowl type bowls with end grain orientation. And used them for many years. They have fallen onto the floor several times without breaking. They are quit tuff bowls.

Happy turning

Duane Leach

Re: grain direction?

DWFII

>Fred,

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have a number of "bowl" blanks cut and wondered if I could convert any of them into short hollow-forms...Southwest style, sort of. I don't have much deep end grain. Some I can make into boxes and maybe slender vases but not squat HFs. so thanks that tells me alot.

DW

In the High Desert of Central Oregon

Re: grain direction?

Dave Peebles Lyons, Ohio!

>Hi DW,

I do them both ways. End grains seems to be more stable for me on Hollow forms. By that I mean it moves less. Also on end grain you tend to get chips that are easier to blow out with compressed air. On the face grain you tend to get shavings that can take a little longer to remove. But I like to do both types. You can get some interesting differences from the same tree trying it both ways.

One things is for sure, they are all fun and worth the effort.

I also think it is great to experiment. I don't believe in any rules... except be safe in what you do.

Here is a small hollow form in Curly Maple that was turned face grain.

Best wishes,

Dave

End grain Same tree 

Dave Peebles Lyons, Ohio!

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Re: End grain Same tree

Arch

>Dave, those pieces are wonderful. Just goes to show that your work can be well dressed without wearing a collar and tie and an open shirt can be elegant.

Forgive me, Wally (and all my other collarphilic WC friends'G'). After all we both turned in less than splendid isolation on opposite coasts a long time ago, but I would be honored and love to meet you some sunny day.

Warm regards, Arch

Re: grain direction?

adrien

>Duane, I'm fascinated. Do you have any pictures of your end grain salad bowls???

Sometimes the figure in a flitch of wood is so much better cross section than ripped the long way.....

Re: End grain Same tree

Wally Dickerman in Arizona

>Arch, it would be a pleasure to meet you. I've admired your journalistic skills for some time.

I do lots of work without collars. The photo will show a small amount of window dressing however.

Wally

Re: grain direction?

Duane C.Leach

>Fellow Turning Addicts. I have yet to master the art of photography and posting my work on line. When it comes to sophisticated computerized equipment I am as they say "all thumbs". Some day maybe.

Untill then happy turning

Duane Leach

Re: End grain Same tree

Dave Peebles Lyons, Ohio!

>Hello Arch,

As one who has enjoyed you "musings" for some time on the usenet group, I do appreciate the kind words. I don't repond much anymore over there... but I faithfully read every word you write. You are a real treasure and I hope to meet you one day.

Best wishes,

Dave