Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

Duane C.Leach

>Barry. Try turning the bowl gouge on it's side with flutes pointing toward you and the handle to the right side of center. Start in the bottom and pull out. It's almost a shearing cut but using the end of the tool, not much of the flutes. The position of the flutes and handle will have to be adjusted to get desired cut.

Happy turning

Duane

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

barry

>That sounds like the back-hollowing cut that I make with spindle gouges. I was trying to duplicate the cut I recently saw a demonstrator make at a club meeting. He was pushing in and cutting with the left side nose of the gouge (I think). Thanks. Barry

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

John Lucas

>Thats the technique I use. I point the flute about 9 oclock (which would be to my left) Then you cut with the bottom "wing" on the gouge tip. I try to keep about a 2mm gap between the top wing and the box interior. I cut with the bottom wing of the gouge roughly on the center line if the turning.

If these are endgrain boxes and goblets then you should cut from the center out. This will be downhill on the grain unless you shape your goblets different than most people.

Now after seeing Stewart Batty's demo I will be building a negative rake round nose scraper to see how that works for cleaning up the final passes.

I made boxes for years using nothing but a roundnoxe scraper for hollowing and cleaning. Nothing wrong with that. It's just more pleasureable to use the gouge, unless of course you are getting catches.

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

ken chase

>Barry: It may be a bit presumptuous my offering advice as I'm very new to turning. However, that being said, I have found the most effective gouge working endgrain and hollowing is the round scraper. It amazes me how much material I can remove with it and how smooth the action. I shapen agressively at 10 degrees often during the process.

I'm sure you will get better advice from someone with more knowledge than I but I had to pass along my thoughts.

Good Luck

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

Keith Tompkins

>Ken, you have made the leap from asking questions to answering them....OK!

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

Ed Kelle

>Ah at least I was not the only one having hollowing problems yesterday. Though I was not having luch using my detail gouge. I tried drilling it straight into the center as I have seen, and got maybe 1/4" before it caught pretty decently. Then I tried pushing in towards center like I read in Raffans book, yes right next to me as I tried it. No success either. I did the scraper routine for a while till it was just getting a bit far of a reach. I used a forstner to drill out to the depth I wanted (about 4.5") then tried to clean it up inside. What I thought to be a simple project, a pencil pot, turned into a day long adventure. At least now I have a piece that will serve to always judge my progress against. I am going to try some of the great suggestions here today and see if I have more success.

This has got to be one of the best forums I have found, I am always finding valuable info and lots of incredible works. The friendliness of the people is absolutely amazing.

I'm heading back to the lathe to try what I have learned.

Good luck with your projects, have fun!

Before anyone can answer:

Terry Daniel

>They must know the shape of your gouge. There are many ways to sharpen or shape the end of the gouge and your method of presentation is dependant on the shape of the tip and the wings. The flute geometry also comes into play. Look at the grinds library hear at WC. If you ask me how I present my gouge that would be different from others.....not that they are wrong; it's just that the shape is a factor and must be taken into account. A "hands on" lesson is essential to learning this tool.

TD

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

barry

>A demo guy from Jet Tools was at the last TAW meeting.......can't remember the name, you probably know him. He did a demo on turning goblets. He appeared to be pushing the nose of the bowl gouge straight into the goblet. The flute appeared to be straight up. Shavings were going everywhere and the cut seemed effortless. I had never turned a goblet, so I was trying to duplicate his technique. I got my goblet, but had to revert to my old tried and true technique.

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

barry

>No, you're not presumptous. I'll take advice anywhere I can get it. Funny thing, after not being able to hollow with a bowl gouge as I had seen done in the demo, I resorted to a 1/4 spindle gouge and.........a 1/2 round-nose scraper. You're right, it works great. Not quite as fast as a gouge though. Thanks.

Re: Before anyone can answer:

barry

>I was using a 3/8" Sorby bowl gouge with a side grind, done on a Wolverine guide with a vari-grind attachment. It was freshly sharpened. Probably not an Ellsworth, but close.

Re: Woodturning Disability ? ? ?

Duane C.Leach

>Barry. I think one of the most important lessons you and other newbies should have learned in this thread is that there is more than one way to skin a cat. I mean, there are many methods to get the job done. All are good. Some methods are more efficient than others, and some produce cleaner cuts than others.

A good turner will learn different technics to do the same job. Why? If a tool or a technic isn't working on the project at hand then just switch to another. What ever works best for the project at hand.

Happy turning.

Duane Leach

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John Lucas

>Barry, was that Joe Gettys? I've used my gouge that way. The flute is up and you push down on the handle. Your actually using the exact same cutting technique of cutting with the left flute.

We are cutting a round piece. You could cut with the flute pointing to the right, handle moving left and the gouge under the tool rest. It would be the same cut. I think it was Graham Priddle that did this with a oneway lathe as a joke. He was kidding about how being on the other side of the world things worked differently.

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barry

>I agree. That's what I was trying to do......learn one more way to "skin the cat". I got my goblet, albeit using a combination of cutting and scraping techniques with a 1/4" spindle gouge and a 1/2" round nose scraper. Thanks.

Grinds Library?

Dan Moening

>Admittedly I've not followed every link available on the menu, but where is the "grinds library"?

I didn't see anything of the like in a quick scan of the turning articles...

Your help is appreciated.

Dan.

Re: Grinds Library?

Terry Daniel

>scroll to the top of this page and look for the gray box on the left.

TD