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Rotary Tool ??

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Rotary Tool ??

Jennifer@Indy.USA

>I'm having a dilemma....I have a VS Dremel with a flex shaft rotary attachment. It goes from 5,000-35,000 rpm. What would I be gaining by going to a hanging type motor other than the reversing function? I suppose power as well? The Wecheer and the Foredom are both rated for 20,000-25,000 max RPM. I feel like with the Dremel that I'm not getting as clean of a cut with the small ball cutters that I'm using. Is it because they are cheapo cutters that came with it, or because I don't have enough RPMs? Would the difference in performance be like night and day? I also have a Weecher reciprocating carver attachment that would fit onto one of the hanging units....so there's another "reason" to buy one :) Thanks for any advice and guidance.

Jennifer

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Mac

>Jennifer, I have both a Dremel with the flex shaft and carving shaft, and I have a Foredom I have had for many years.The Foredom is by far the better tool. It has much more power and is smoother. The Dremel is ok for occasional use and does what it advertises that it will.As with all things that we use, you get what you pay for.I have many cutters for both and find that I really like the old fashioned steel stump cutters for most roughing work,structured carbide is also useful and they come in different grits.All tools are great!.

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Jim Davies, Clayton, NJ

>Jennifer,

It depends on what you want to do. The tools you mention are great for "hogging" out wood, but nothing beats an air driven tool like the turbocarver when it somes to detail. 400,000 rpm makes very clean cuts!

The carving shown is in black walnut, 6 1/2" by 8 1/2". My own design. All the detail was done with a turbocarver.

Jim D.


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Jennifer@Indy.USA

>Thanks Jim....and lovely carving! A turbo Carver...while on my lengthy Wish List....isn't in the budget right now. I know I sure could have used one today!

Jen

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Jennifer@Indy.USA

>Thanks Mac,

I think I just need to "Do it"! I appreciate your feedback.

Jen

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Wally Page

>400,000 RPM - Give me a break. Does anything spin that fast?????

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Powercrafter  *LINK*

Jennifer@Indy.USA

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Powercrafter & your dentist :)

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Re: Dentist's drill do.

Al Crandall --NE of Indy--

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Jim D. Clayton, NJ

>Never counted them but that is the claim. See the link below.

Jim D.


Turbocarver

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George Van in WI

>Jim is correct on the speed.


http://www.turbocarver.com/

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Mike Schwing from Md.

>Jennifer, over the past year I've gained lots of new tools and experience in this area. As a new carver, but with a few things completed with pleasant results, here are my thoughts, for what they're worth.

I have; a Powercrafter - the 300,000 rpm air powered dental drill, A Dremel XPR 400, and a Foredom SR.

The Foredom is an incredible machine. I bought the SR but plan on exchanging it for the TX, as the SR is 1/8hp and the TX 1/3hp. It is fine, but for big roughing out jobs it can't spin the big 1/4" typhoon/Kutzall bits the way I want them to. The handpieces allow me to use the tiny bits that came with the Powercrafter or the big a** 1/4" bits. Incredible versatility. The unit is also QUIET, and smooth, very smooth. I like the footpedal variable speed control even though I thought I would not. I still think I'd like to have the bench dial vs. control, but no $$ right now for it.

The Powercrafter is great for tiny details and final shaping, but only for that. It will not take much of a load and quickly tells you how it wants to be used, you will develop a very light delicate stroke, almost like fine line painting as you learn to use it. It is great for carving detail on the bottoms of bowls, etc.. and for signing your work. you can even do a little burning with it.

I have not turned the Dremel on since receiving the Foredom, and only use the Powercrafter when I need absolute fine detail, which is at the very end of most of my carving work, or when finishing a bowl bottom/signing.

I can't get the same tiny bits that are used for the powercrafter to perform the same in the Foredom - it just doesn't spin fast enough, but it isnt' designed to. The Powercrafter is really fun.

If you have one of these on your mind, I'd recommend looking closely at the heavier duty Foredom with the rotary bench variable speed control.

BTW, if you wind up carving wet wood, I find the Kutzall bits don't clog, whereas the Typhoons do immediately. And oh, I don't think it is the quality of your tool so much, rotary carving doesn't always produce fantastic results, but if your bits are dull that could exacerbate the problem. Also, if your handpiece has any slop at all in the bearings, the bits tend to vibrate on the workpiece and produce a lousy finish. The Foredom bearings are very solid. Dremel, less so.

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George Van in WI

>Thanks for the information Mike; you answered a lot of my questions through your trials and experiences. I will save this for the time I am ready to try carving.

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Jim D. Clayton, NJ

>Mike,

I aggree with basically all you have posted here. So far I have not invested in a Foredom style machine, mainly because I enjoy doing the heaver carving with my hand tools.

I do find the air turbine style tools a fantstic tool for detailing work, no matter what material you chose to work with. The photo below is corian and was one of the first things I used this tool on.


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Jennifer@Indy.USA

>Great information Mike. Much appreciated. My budget is dictating things a bit...so I'm leaning towards the Wecheer 1/3hp motor kit. I've done much reading and it's getting good reviews. I hope its a good choice.

Jen

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