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Keith Tompkins

Cutting angles

Keith Tompkins

>John Lucas recently posted about cutting angles, or rather,how the tool is presented to the wood, affects the cut produced by the tool.

In the case of the skew, when the cutting edge is 90 degrees to the tool rest, the cut is directly into end grain, so the cut is more difficult. By "skewing" the cut to a 45 degree angle, wood fibers will be sheared or peeled away.

The same effect will be experienced in end grain hollowing....many turners have difficulty in turning end grain because they are attempting to cut straight into the end grain. A better solution would be to make a small starting cut into the center (I use a spindle or bowl gouge), then make a shearing cut from the center to the rim.....only the initial cut into the center was end grain! Just repeat the process to hollow.

Like John, I experiment with tool angles....for instance, a bowl gouge rolled until the flute is nearly straight up will give a very clean shearing cut.

For good beads and coves in spindle turning, the tool must be presented right on the center line on it's side, otherwise, the tool tends to thread itself along the turning.

I have found that the higher the skew is presented to a turning, the worse the catches will be. Why? When the tool catches, there is more wood under the tool, which then pulls the tool further into the catch. (Similar to the effect of hollowing with the tool on center, a catch pulls the cut deeper into the wood).

John, that was actually a great thought provoking post...I'm surprised it didn't get more response! You can't alway just go by what the book or video says....It's ok to experiment.

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John Lucas

>Keith

I don't get catches with the skew so I had never thought of how hard it catches (yea right). I tried cutting at different tool heights one evening to see if there was a more efficient way to handle the skew. I found exactly what you and others say, that using the skew with the tool rest high enough that you are cutting near the top of the wood is the best way. The tool is more controllable especially in a peeling cut witht the edge parallel to the wood.

In theory tool rest height shouldn't make a difference because this is a round object. If you rub the bevel of the tool and have the tool in contact with the tool rest then you will get the same cut no matter where the tool rest is locaated. The only difference would be where the tool handle ends up. In reality the tool rest doesn't move in an arc around the turning. It moves straight up and down and consequently moves away from the wood as you go up or down beyond the center line. Experiment. See what works for you.

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DWFII

>It's interesting...I've seen photos of the skew being used real high on the wood and it seemed to me that it shouldn't make a difference because (as John said) the wood was round but it's something I want to try because I'm not too sure-footed with a skew.

In the same vein, I was scraping the inside of an end-grain vase a week or so ago...with edge of the scraper tilted down a bit, but still at mid line. I had just finished sharpening the scrapers but I was not getting that great a finish.

I decided to break out a little doo-dad that I bought from CSUSA to put a burr on the scraper. Reading the instructions, it said to hold the scraper perfectly level at midline. **Don't** tilt the scraper at all!

So despite my better judgement...and fearful that I would screw up my vase...I gave it a try. It was amazing! The wood came off slick as a whistle and the finish was much, much better.

Always pays to read the flipping instructions, I guess.

DW

In the High Desert of Central Oregon

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John Lucas

>Oh man how can you admit to reading the instructions. I think somewhere in "man" manual it says "one must never read the instructions unless one is willing to forgoe all manliness. John

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DWFII

>See, I didn't know that!

My dad was a metallurgical engineer and he didn't teach me all that stuff. He worked for the government and wasn't allowed to express any "gender-based" traits, whatsoever, even at home.

That's why I like woodturning...for the camaradie and the manly feel of woodchips under my jockey shorts.

DW

In the High Desert of Central Oregon

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