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Wally Dickerman in Az.

>Any hollowing tool is suitable for using on end grain turnings. Just about all deep hollow vessels are turned end grain. Nearly all hollowing tools are scraping tools. The Termite, a hollowing tool made by Oneway is a cutting tool, and it definitly has a learning curve. In the hands of a turner experienced with the ring tool, which the Termite is, a hollow form can be hollowed quite fast, with impressive large curls of shavings.

Wally

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>I seldom do end grain turning so take my advice for what it is worth.

I have a Kelton Hook tool, along the lines of the Martel(http://www.public.netc.net/martel/MHT.html). I cannot really recommend it, the learning curve is rather steep.

The only other cutting tool that I have used is the ProForm. This worked quite well. Making long shavings the second you find the sweet spot of angle and location.

HOWEVER - the ability of these tools to make nice long smooth cuts resulting in long shavings is why I don't used one. You pay the devil to get the shavings out of a enclosed form. I had to fashion a long hook out of clothes hanger to pull them out.

With the conventional scraping tools, a shot of compressed air or a minute with a vacuum, and you are clear inside.

Best of luck

Mark

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Sascha

>check for the exocet tool from australia, i have many hollowers, i love my kelton, but the exocet is great since you can adjust how heavy of a cut you want.. it's a really cool tool, just punch exocet turning tools into google and you'll find it.

sascha

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John Lucas

>I'll go along with scraping tools for the shortest learning curve and working in any direction of grain. I like the smaller tipped tools such as John Jordan's. I feel like they don't take as big a bite and are less tiring to use. They also make small shavings that are easy to get out of small holed vessel. In a captured boring bar they are a true delite to use.

The captured boring bar system such as Lyle Jamieson's take a lot of the white Knuckle and learning curve out of hollowing. Probably the only dissadvantage other that price is that they are so easy to use you get overconfident and cut through the side of a vessel or two until you realize that you need to take the same precautions for measuring thickness as you would for a hand held tool.

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DWFII

>Thanks everyone! I've got a eight inch by five inch vase roughed out (haven't turned the interior yet)..it was now or never--the wood seemed to have a bit of stress in it, kept cracking. I'll rough out the interior and soak it in alcohol tomoorow.

Guess I'll stick with my gouges and the Sorby Multi-Tip for now.

DW

In the High Desert of Central Oregon

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John Lucas

>when you rough out the vase be sure and leave the bottom thick. They have the same problems as goblets when hollowing. They want to vibrate and chatter. If there is any stem at all I leave that thick. I've never roughed a vase and let it dry so i don't know what problems you will have. I have always tuned my vases to completion in one setting.

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Brad Vietje

>DW,

I'll just chime in a slight correction: scraping tools are particularly GOOD for end grain, and except for shear scrapers, are usually not used on side grain. The smaller tipped tools like the Ellsworth style hollowing tools, or the curved ones John referred to by John Jordan are pretty easy to control once you get the hang of them.

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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Pascal Oudet

>Hi,

the Munro tool is a perfect answer to the needs you've listed here:

it cuts (not scrapes), is able of removing big quantities of wood, or take fine delicate cuts, works for end and face grain, is very easy to use (the depth gauge is much easier to adjust that on the proforme), is sharpened on a std grinder (it comes with its sharpening jig).

what else ? I have the Termite, the Kelton (1/2"), the proforme, and have used many others. the Munro is really my tool of choice when the opening is 1" or bigger.

for end grain hollowing, Andre Martel's hook is probably the most efficient, but it's also the most difficult to master. I don't recommend it in your case.

you can learn more about the Munro (and Proforme) in my article below.

hth,

Pascal


Munro article

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sue correa

>Try Behemoth Woodturning Tools. They work great. They costs a fraction of what the brand name tools cost and theyre easy to use. Trust me its worth checking out!


Behemoth Woodturning Tools