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All dressed up with no place to go

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All dressed up with no place to go

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All dressed up with no place to go

Arch

>Time was when you could buy an inexpensive cross slide with a compound top slide and tool holder for wood lathes. There was no lead screw. It was just clamped along the lathe bed, but the 6 to 8 in. axial feed was sufficient, as was the cross feed. I have an old one.

I thought to try making one using my limited skills with tools commonly found in most woodturning shops. I planned to use a $40 H.F. X/Y vise and add some sort of shop made top slide and clamp. If my abortion worked, it would demonstrate that most any of you could cobble one up. Of course, many of you could do much better.

Then I realized that I never use the one I have. Maybe it's because I have a metal lathe.

I think I could use it for machining softer metal and hard wood or for an attempt at ornamntal turning. I wonder what else.

Is it likely that any significant number of us would find much use for a cheap & dirty compound cross slide and tool holder? Probably not or I'd see it in all the catalogs. I think Technatool offered something similar, but it wasn't very popular and IMO not reasonably priced.

I reckon that I've typed myself out of making it, but I'd appreciate your ideas for using one. Maybe someone here can refer me to a useful website so I can go away quietly.:)

TIA, Arch

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John Lucas

>Arch

The HF cross slide is too sloppy. I have one. It's not bad for positioning things under the drill press but really lousy if you want to use it as any kind of cross feed.

I bought a decent cross feed from either www.travis.com or Enco I forget which for $80 on sale. It has about 8 or 10 inches of movement and is really solid. I've use it under the drill press for light milling but drill presses weren't made for this so you get chatter unless you take really light cuts.

I've thought about adapting it to my Powermatic to do some ornamental work. It should do it quite easily. You would need to rig up a way to hold either the work piece or a dremel or flexshaft tool so that you could move it in and out. it's heavy. Probably weights 35 or 40lbs.

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Arch

>Thanks John, I'll take your opinion and advice since it's from experience. I knew that the HF vise was sloppy, but I hoped to take enough slop out by tightening the dovetail splines and drilling and tapping for a brass pin to tighten against the threads. They are probably rolled instead of cut, and not true acme, so I probably can't take the backlash out by cranking the slides toward the work before touching it.

Sometimes, I can be too thrifty (read cheap) for my own good, but I hope some of you will suggest some uses and maybe a tutorial or article about using a decent cross slide.

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Don Evans

>Actually Arch they are called gimbles. The inexpensive cross slide vises one see's for $50.00 (4" jaw) will work. The gimbles have screws that can be adjusted to take up the slop, and they also have a thumb screw that you normally tighten when using just to keep it from moving.

It can be used but it appears to me it would get agravating to keep tighting all up. I have one that I use on the drill press and it's great for that. I've thought about mounting it on the wood lathe but I also have metal lathe. The problem with mounting on the wood lathe is I would want it mounted sideways so I would need a 90 deg holder for it and as stated, it's heavy. I wanted it for checkering gun handles so it would also have to be able to rotate on the mount.

As far as slop in the acme screws that is true with lots and lots of metal lathes and it shouldn't really be a problem. If I need precision, I don't go by the dials anyway and use magnetic dial indicator. But, on the lathe dial or vise if you back out the slop before releasing gimble lock you can use the dial for most things.

I just need to get busy and make an indexing head for my metal lathe.

I'd love to have the one John got for $80 but I haven't seen one of those for less that $160 or so. Micromark as one, lighter duty, for $100.00 but wonder if it's heavy duty enough.

Don

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Greg in Oshkosh

>This would also be just the thing for cutting threads on boxes. You would only need to add a device for holding the chuck and advanceing it forward

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