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Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

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Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Craig Daymon

>I THINK that the 'Tailstock Chuck Adaptor' shown on page 23 of the Packard Woodworks catalog is what I am looking for, but it mentions nothing about bearings. I'm thinking it has to be "live". Does anyone know?

What I'm looking to find is a #2MT live adapter with 1"x8tpi threads that I can screw a faceplate onto. My thinking is that if I use a small, aluminum faceplate (minimize weight as much as possible), I can turn a scrap to whatever shape I need (cone, ball, etc.) to remount a piece without damage and simply unscrew the faceplate from the drive end and pop it onto the tailstock adaptor.

I know the Oneway Revolving Live Center with the Oneway Live Center Adaptor would do the trick, but that is about $135 from Packard (same page as other adaptor) and I still need the faceplate (and I can be VERY cheap). The other one is $25.

The catalog states that the $25 adaptor is "for positioning only and not meant to be used under power", but what real good is it if it can't spin when powered?

If the cheap adaptor won't do what I want and since I'm too cheap for the Oneway solution, does anyone know if such a product is available elsewhere? It should be cheaper than the Oneway if it doesn't need to offer such adaptability. A metal turning piece?

Thanks,

Craig

Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

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Dave Shombert

Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Dave Shombert

>Craig -

The adaptor you're looking at is NOT live, it's just a male threaded piece fixed to a #2MT arbor. It's useful sometimes in this respect: let's say you have a piece mounted on the lathe, you're done turning it, and now you want to mount a faceplate on the end of it, the other end from where it's held at the headstock. Of course, you want the faceplate to be centered. This thing will do that - mount the faceplate on the adaptor, stick it in the tailstock, run it up to the turned piece and mark where you're going to drill the mounting holes. Is that worth $25? I have one, I've used it a few times in very specialized situations. I'm glad I have it. But I can imagine that a lot of people would say it's not worth it to them.

I don't know of a commercially available alternative to the Oneway live center adapter. I had such a thing made for me by a machinist friend, but he only charged me for materials.

The Nova live center system is pretty versatile and you can probably make your own version of what you're talking about with that. But as I recall it costs about as much as the Oneway.

Dave Shombert

Elkins, WV

Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

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Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Lyn J. Mangiameli

>Right on both counts with respect to the Nova. I have a prototype from Teknatool that mounts a spindle head into the Nova Live Center. Works great, but not a cheap solution if one doesn't already have the Center. You could also take the BWT (I presume this is the one referred to at Packard--at least I have a similar device from BWT that is meant to help center work on a vacuum chuck) and cut off most of the taper and fit it to the Nova Live Center.

For a photo of the Teknatool version (which one might be able to obtain direct from Teknatool) take a look at my Nova Live Center Review that can be found here:

http://www.fholder.com/Woodturning/lyn.html

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OT: Adobe Reader

Ted Owen, Pittsburgh

>Lyn, I was unsuccessful simply clicking on your review and watching it open with Adobe Reader 6.0.

Instead I had to run Adobe on my computer, then Open the URL in Adobe, and the document opened fine.

Why do many pdf files on the net automatically run Adobe and open, while others require manually running Adobe and opening the file therein? Is it something I can set in my Adobe, or is it something the author inserts in the file?

Best, Ted

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Re: OT: Adobe Reader

George Van in WI

>Ted, I tried the link on Fred's website twice with Reader 6 and did not have a problem. I do not however have a solution for you.

Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

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Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Craig Daymon

>Thanks Dave,

I can see a value in it now, but I would still like to find what I am looking for without going the Oneway or Nova route.

Maybe I'll pitch the idea to Lee Valley, seeing as that is probably where I would go for the aluminum faceplate and they are good about creating quality products at reasonable prices. Of course, that means probably a minimum of 6 months to market IF they start on it right away.

Thanks,

Craig

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Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Craig Daymon

>Lyn,

Yes, that combination would work for me, but I suspect it is right up there with the Oneway solution in price (which appears to be almost identical, at least in application). Packard has the Nova product, but doesn't list the chuck adaptor.

Like I mentioned to Dave, maybe I'll pitch it to Lee Valley as it would probably be their aluminum faceplate that I'd be mounting on it.

This strikes me as an approach that would be VERY useful. Just a simple threaded end that matched the head stock on a bearing and attached to a morse taper. I don't imagine it would need the mass of what the Live Tailstock sets from Nova or Oneway seem to have and putting a lightweight faceplate on it negates the need for pretty much all of the attachment piece.

If I'm looking at this idea wrong or am neglecting something, please offer some input as I really would like to lean on someone (Lee Valley?) to create such a product and I'd like to apply all considerations before proposing the idea.

-Craig

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Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Lyn J. Mangiameli

>Hi Craig,

Yes, the Nova solution would be no less than the Oneway.

Actually I did put the very thing you desire to Best Wood Tools (the maker of the fixed spindle thread to Morse taper adapter you have looked at) several years ago, but nothing has come of it. This was before the Oneway and Nova solutions even existed, and only John Tolan was making a fixed version.

The aluminum faceplates you see at LV are actually made by Don Pencil. Rob might take on the project, though I think their hands are awfully full right now, but I suspect it is more likely to come from folks who are more involved in manufacturing parts for woodturning. Best Wood Tools would be very suited for carrying it out (afterall they are 2/3rds of the way there), but perhaps Don Pencil or another good possibility is Steve Houston of the WoodsTrademan. Steve has shown the willingness to innovate and has developed some custom things for me in the past. I'll alert him to this thread.

Of course the market for such a thing is fairly limited, in part because the very turners most apt to purchase such a thing are apt to already own a Nova or Oneway live center, or are content with the fixed solution.

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Joe Fleming

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Re: Live Tailstock chuck adaptor

Craig Daymon

>Lyn,

Thanks for mentioning Best Wood Tools. It turns out the product is in development and they are shooting for an end of April release. They are pricing it between $59 and $69, hopefully closer to $59.

I think this will prove a very useful addition.

Thanks,

Craig

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