Mak a Shooting Plane?

Re: Mak a Shooting Plane?

if you make a plane out of wood, the mouth will erode fairly quickly. make sure you have a replaceable insert. 

I don't have a suggestion. I made two shooters - one was all wood (a replica of a two plane shown in old catalogues sometimes), and one was infill. I think if you intend to use the plane a good bit and for a longer period of time, it needs to have a metal side and sole. 

If the plane is bevel down, 40-45 degrees. 

Re: Mak a Shooting Plane?

Tom, there is a build of a wooden shooting plane, a strike block plane, on my website:  

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/BuildingaStrikeBlockPlane.html

The notable features are a low angle bed - the plane is bevel down at 37 degrees. Using a 25 degree bevel, this will rival a LA Jack for ease in cutting end grain.

It works well, and is comfortable to push.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Derek, with that angle how does it do on long grain? Also since I  don't have any "heavy" wood my thought  was to ad some sort of  internal weight. 

Re: Mak a Shooting Plane?

Tom, a cutting angle of 37 degrees is too low for long grain. I designed this plane for end grain. It is possible to alter the blade for long grain by adding a back bevel. Frankly, if you want a shooting plane for both, make the bed 45 degrees.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Mak a Shooting Plane?

The first step has been taken.Hock blade has been  ordered. Rummaging  through  my wood rack I have some old 3"+ cherry that  I  am considering. 

Also came  across  an old YouTube video  from a fellow  in Japan. He did the plane in 2 halves in order to address he abutments.  Looks like  an interesting  method. 

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I wouldn't worry about a metal mouth.  I find most heavy soles, or special mouths are a wast of time, and I have planes that date back to the early 80s.  That might be part of the problem as if one enjoys making planes one never seems to have so few around that any one gets too work out.  I have only plane that I have worn out two soles on, and it takes very little time to replace a sole, so I don't let it worry me.

Three options to metal are:

1) Make the plane and fix it when the time comes.  It will take about the same time either way, so why bother until the need shows itself.

2)  Saturate the mouth with epoxy or crazy glue to harden it off.

3) Make a mouth out of diamondwood/pen blank.

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I made a Japanese plane once using standard three piece construction, a la Krenov.  It worked out really well.  I could have cut the abutments prior to gluing it up up, but it is actually easy to make them after the glue-up as one has the perfectly formed bed and mouth to guide the saw.  At least with the Japanese style I want to have the fit start too tight, and let it in.

I did take a plane making seminar on Japanese planes and it actually takes so little time to do it from the block, that it isn't worth it doing it any other way.  And I carry those lessons through to western planes with abutments, also.  If one considers how long it takes to mortise out the the basic plane body, just the cubic inch, or so, that form the ramps, even with good power tools it isn't worth the hassle of cutting out parts and gluing them up.

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So I  am going  to try the 2 halve idea doing the abutments on each half. Started laying out the cuts today.  Maybe the next one I will  chop it out.