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tenon saws

Ross

>I'm in the market for a tenon saw. I have the LN dovetail saw and like it. I've looked at LN, Adria, and Wenzloff (way backordered). I also have a couple of 20 year old Pax brass backed dovetail/tenon saws that are almost useless, way too fine, wrong set, etc. that I could have reworked (anybody used Cooke's sharpening service?). I'm a traditionalist so I'm not terribly interested in the Japanese style saws. Comments and opinions are solicited.

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>When I was traditional western I used a Tyzack tenon saw which also cut dovetails, very nice. Now that I'm traditional eastern, I use Japanese, but afaik, not a one is called a tenon saw, just rip kataba Nothing wrong, so I've heard, with any of the ones you've listed.

Pam

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Glenn Madsen near San Francisco

>but I bought the LN tenon saw to go with the LN dovetail saw I have. I like it a lot. But I'm no expert.

One of the benefits of the LN is that I could walk into Woodcraft, look, feel and buy. Couldn't do that with the Adria dovetail saw, which seemed to get hung up in the Canada to California transaction. There are certainly better ways to buy that lovely tool, but that way took probably a month.

That's better than waiting 15 months for a Wentzloff saw. Does LV have what you want, or is something custom in your future?

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ThomD

>I bought the LV Wen. saw, and they had it right in stock. Over the counter instant fullfuilment. I didn't like it though, it had too much set for my preference, and the handle was not a comfortable fit compared to the Independence. Both of those factors are subjective, and another person might swing the opposite way. There were some bad scratches on the one I got.

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Brad in Ottawa

>I bought the Large Tenon from LV... I jumped the gun and was one of the first to order. I didn't have to wait long and it looks like the back order times are measured in weeks and days.

My saw was well finished and the handle was well suited to me. I immediately sawed some practice tenons and was impressed with how quickly it worked, how accurate I could cut with it and the surface it left behind.

Like Thom said, different strokes for different folks. At least I didn't have to wait *forever* to get a Wenzloff!

Brad

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Jim O'Neal

>I waited almost six months for a Wensloff #9 back saw. The long wait was very frustrating, but once I received the saw, I knew it was worth the wait. I'll do it again, but the next time I'll know to put in my order then just be patient. I don't think I will order a saw from any other manufacturer but the Wenzloff's in the future. I doubt if you would be disapointed with anything you bought from the Wenzloff's.

Jim

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I like my LN...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>I like their DT saw as well. I'd like to get my paws on a Wenzloff.

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Marv

>Hi Ross,

I can sharpen your tenon saws for you and make them cut as good or better than new. I charge by the inch with a low of $1.50 to $2.50 depending on condition. I used to charge a flat rate but it was too much for alot of people. Retoothing can be done also if you don't like what you have. Changing from rip to crosscut or crosscut to rip is not a problem. I will set the teeth to match the type of wood you will be sawing.

Alot of people use Cooke's. He charges about $15.00 per saw, however, I've heard both good and bad about quality of sharpening.

The main complaint is shipping cost to me and back to you. Cost more to ship sometimes than it does for sharpening your saw. However, it is usually much cheaper than buying a new saw. Have you tried looking on eBay? You can sometimes get some pretty good deals there.

email me if you want more info.

Marv

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Adam Cherubini, NJ

>I have this great frame tenon saw I made with a fixed blade. I bought the blade from Highland Hardware years and years ago. I just checked their website and I didn't see it. It was a an 18" Sandvik blade, recommended by Tage Frid. That saw (I made 2, pretty sure one is in Pennsbury manor now) worked great. I prefer having a really long back saw.

Adam

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Dean J in MN

>I did the same as Adam, used a framed saw until I got a long tenon saw. Right around 9tpi.

Either of these two blades can make a fine framed tenon saw (you will probably want change the rake and set to your liking however). I re-filed the blades to be rip, and changed the rake and reduced set. But, nothing wrong with starting as it is and tweaking as needed.

http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/product_info.php/cPath/37_126_571/products_id/2679

http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/product_info.php/cPath/37_126_571/products_id/3613

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Ross

>I just checked. I currently have a Tyzack 15 tpi with a 12x3.25" blade. Compared to the LN 15 tpi dovetail saw (rip), it doesn't cut at all, very slow. I guess I'll try a change to the sharpening on it as a first attempt. It's in new condition, I guess because it never worked as expected. 20 years ago I thought buying the most tpi was the way to go. I've learned a little since then.

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