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Re: Question re: C. Schwartz' Roubo Bench

#26

Re: Green Beech

Patrick Gibbons, Houston, TX

>I would suspect that 18th century benches were made with green wood, at least the tops were wetter than the frames. Landis has a translated quote from Roubo that remarks that the heart side of the plank should face up, this side being harder. As it dries and cups it tightens on the tenons of the legs without gapping. Schwartz also comments on this "A frame" effect. I think making a laminated top takes an incredible amount of time and effort. My first and, so far, only attempt at doing it was discouraging. Honestly, the most appealing aspect of an old style bench is the prospect that I can build a top from one or few pieces.

Re: Question re: C. Schwartz' Roubo Bench

#27

Beech is a pain to kiln dry

Dave Anderson NH

>I've talked to a couple of lumber people and none of them will do Beech. It's a combination of two factors, the drying difficulties and loss during drying and the lack of a reliable market. While those of us who are hobbyists go to our local lumberyard and buy 20-100 board feet most of the time, the yards are looking for the customer who buys in units of a "skid pack" which is pretty much standardized at 1000bft around here.

Re: Question re: C. Schwartz' Roubo Bench

#28

you got it all right

Bill Tindall, E.TN

>beech is only sawed in my area for rail ties. It is otherwise a forest weed

Re: Question re: C. Schwartz' Roubo Bench

#29

Re: Laminated Beams LVL *LINK*

r fulton

>Example Baltic birch ply on edge (end-grain?) bench top.

Looks fantastic, solid, stable, flat.

Photo ripped from Sam Blasco's post on SMC.

Following link shows the whole build process.

For all I know, Sam may have posted it here on WC also.

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Sam Blasco's Bench

Re: Question re: C. Schwartz' Roubo Bench

#30

Re: Places to Look. Things to Consider

ThomD

>If it is four to six inches, I think it would take 2 to 4 years around here, depending on one thing or another. Though with the right piece of wood, I am not too sure the use of greenish lumber should be discounted. You don't want your chisels or work to warp or rust on the bench, but there is a big difference between that and not having the very center perfectly dried. The FWW Roubo looked almost as though it was designed to take advantage of a piece of wood that was freshish sawn, as would have been the case in many instances. The bench is really an elaboration of a timber on trestle horses, and most of those timbers were probably relatively recently harvested.

That timber I hewed into a bench on our property a few years back was just such a project. It fell onto the beach and sat there for a while with foliage attached, then I cut it peavied it to the waters edge and towed it through the water to our house. Cut it up further, then tractored it up onto the level, hewed it and moved it into the basement. The hewing took a while, and the surface was wet when cut but quickly dried out a little. Once installed it never rusted a tool or shifted much, so far. It is somethign like 15x7 at the wide end, but mostly smaller.

I rarely worry about such things, because my chainsaw milling experience indicates I take much longer to get to it than the water takes to get out of it.

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