Received my LV Spoon Bits today...

Ooooo, pretty flower...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Thanks for sharing Paul, have you board a hole thru a board yet? I'm curious how clean the exit is.

... some what LESS aggressive then an auger bit...

Paul Kierstead

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Re: Ooooo, pretty flower...

Paul Kierstead

>I did, but it was the first one I ever tried using a spoon bit, so results may not be representative. I bored through till I felt it starting to pass through, then I flipped and bored from the other side. Because there is not "center", it is difficult to line up perfectly (or hold on-line), so it was not a perfectly clean exit (well, entrance, really, but...), though still not awful. I didn't try just boring clean through; I suspect that wouldn't work out amazingly well; it will be difficult to get the right weight so that you don't punch through but yet still cut. Of course if you use a backing board it is probably all good. One thing I love about auger bits; you can always (and easily, no real skill involved) make a perfect entrance and exit without a backing board so long as you can drill from both sides.

Not a Flower!

Greg B�tit, Vergennes VT

>That is the characteristic shaving of a correctly sharpened spoon bit. It's affectionately known as a "turd" in chairmaker's parlance.

I fooled around with antique spoon bits for several years and never really got the things to cut properly- until I was enlightend by the purchase of Fred Emhoff's spoon bits. Lee Valley's are the only other kind currently being sold that will cut like that right out of the box.

greg

Um... OK.... Nice looking turd Paul!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

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Now I am pretty sure that spoon bits are not...

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret

>intended for through boring, unlike twist pod auger (gimblet) bit.

The spoon bit is for blind boring. Also after a few years and several sharpenings the spoon bit morphs into a gouge bit as you loose the snoot.

Stephen

I think that term is...

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret

>not correct. It means excrement and is not used in polite company. I believe it is a sophomoric, scatological term not in the historical lexacon.

Stephen

Re: I think that term is...

Greg B�tit, Vergennes VT

>Well then, there you have it. Point taken. After being raised up around a farm, it never occurred to me that this word would be considered impolite.

The first time I heard this term in this context was back in the '80s from a company that disassembled & reconstructed post and beam structures. They found them in the wall cavities; wondered about it the first place they found them but were driven to find the source when they were a recurring finding in other old structures. Eventually they discovered the source. From that time until I bought a set of Fred Emhoff's bits I tried unsuccessfully to duplicate the phenomena with antique bits.

My subsequent participation in the current resurgance of hand making Windsor chairs has independantly confirmed the usage of this term in reference to a tight curled shaving made by a spoon bit. However offensive it may be to some, it is quite descriptive.

The horse is dead. Long live the horse!

greg

Re: I think that term is...

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Besides, George Bush's nickname for Karl Rove is "Turd Blossom," so how bad can it be? :)

Pam

I rest my case.

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret

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This thread has been illuminating,

Wiley Horne

>and now is a good place to let it come to rest.

Thanks, Wiley........as Moderator

Boy, I could come up wih a few that are worse,

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>But I ain't going there...

WHAT?

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret

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Re: I think that term is...

Robert Henderson

>Actually, it is Standard English. I here the word on TV on a regular basis. Admitedly on BBC America more than on US TV.

Re: It's just a word!!! We are all adults, right?

Marv

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