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Warranted Superior

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>I work for a retired Army Surgeon three days a week, who's father died when he was three. Doc, as he's called, is almost 90 years old but is getting ready to compete in the Tennessee Walking Horse Celebration! He has very few things left from his father (who was born in 1955), but he did have a large framing/timber saw that his father owned and used long ago. Doc knows of my love of old tools, and how I enjoy tuning them up for actual use, and just yesterday he gave me his Daddy's saw. Wow! I was rather taken aback, but very privileged to receive such a gift.

The saw says Warranted Superior, with an eagle in the middle of the nut, with the year 1887. Is this a patent date, or would it be the age of the saw (that would be about right from the history from Doc)?

I don't really think this is some collectors item, although the intrinsic value is rather high for me. I'd like to clean it - how should I go about it? The blade has some rust, but mostly surface stuff that should clean up with some WD40 and steel wool - unless that would be a bad idea. And all the teeth are in tact.

I'll post pics soon, I just wanted to get an idea of what to do before I started on the saw.

Doc's uncle was killed in the Civil war, and his father's father was a Private in the Georgia infantry, and was also killed in the Civil War, at Fredericksburg.

Thanks,

David

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wilbur

>I've had good luck using an electrolysis tank to clean rust off of tools. It sounds imposing, but it's really easy. All you need is a cheap car battery charger, a piece of scrap metal, washing soda, water, and a container big enough to put your tool into. In your case, I would try to get the handle off, if possible, or make sure that only the metal part of the saw is in the tank. Let it run for a couple of hours, and you'll have a rust free tool without expending any elbow grease. Even better, you won't have to worry about scrubbing away any engraving marks.

Here's a site that explains it all for you. Believe me, it's really easy.


Rust removal with electrolysis

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>If Doc is about 90, he was born in about 1917; therefore, his father couldn't have been born in 1955. A typo?

However, a really cool gift, enjoy. If you don't want to tackle electrolysis first thing, give the metal some time in a vinegar, salt, and water bath to remove most/all of the rust.

Pam

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Sorry Pam - 1855 is of course the date.

David

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Todd Hughes

>Warrented Superior is the logo used mostly on cheaper no brand name saws or ones made by some some small companys. Often a large saw making firm like Disston would make a saw for a hardware store and use a WS medalion on it instead of a Disston one. WS medalions are VERY common and doesn't denote anything special , ..actually the opersite. The 1887 date is the date for the patent for the nuts that hold the handle on. Saw probably dates from the late 1800s into the early 1900s or so. This is a very common saw.

The best way to clean a saw in my experance, and I've cleaned more then a few, is with a sanding block going from front to back. You can clean this one up that way but I have to ask ..Why? The vaule in this saw I guess is who owned it and who gave it to you and not how it looks or cuts....sounds like a rusty, common cheap saw after all. Why not just give a little oiling and minimal cleaning [the steel wool would be fine] so that it will display better and be done with it ......Todd

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Marv

>Hi David,

I recondition saws and sell them on eBay. I have tried all kinds of methods to remove rust. Using any kind of chemical, including electrolysis and vinegar will leave the metal a matt color, dull, flat color. If the rust is mild, use mineral spirits for lubrication and get some 3M black sandpaper. It cuts fast and works well with the mineral spirits. The mineral spirits is like water and works well to clean the sandpaper. Start with about a 340 grit. If that doesn't do anything go to a 220 grit, then back to the 340 and finally 400. If you want more shine go to a 600 grit. Have plenty of paper towels handy and wipe often. It you see an etch on the front side of the blade, use the same grit sandpapers with a sanding block over the etch area. Using your fingers only will take out some of the etch. Oh, and remove the handle to do the sanding. Be careful removing the nuts so they don't chip the wood on their way out.

The date on the medallion is the patent date. Warranted Superior saws were made by some of the major saw makers such as Disston but most of them weren't. From a resale standpoint they will be near the bottom of the list, also for saw collectors. All Warranted Superior saws that were made by Disston were their cheapest saws.

If the above sanding methods doesn't do the trick, email me and I'll go into other methods for the tougher kind of rust.

Good luck,

Marv

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Thanks guys! Your info is always right on. I figured the saw was nothing special in and of itself, but the story is neat for me.

I tried to remove the handle - the nut with the logo on it is just spinning; how can I get this one off? I'm not dead set on having too, it would just be nice. I did sand the blade lightly and oiled it, and oiled the handle, and now it's hanging in my shop - a nice addition!

Thanks,

David

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Marv

>Hi David,

One method that works at times is to place a piece of coarse sandpaper on the medallion and clamp a piece of wood over the sandpaper. Sometimes this is just enough to cause the nut to loosen.

You might need to grind a larger screwdriver flat blade thinner so it fits snuggly in the thin slots of the nut.

Marv

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Ken Martin

>"and now it's hanging in my shop"

You might want to tape or fasten (magnet?) a note on the backside of the saw giving its history. Too often an item is later tossed as worthless when the history is not known.

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So, then, his father was in his 60's

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>when he fathered your friend? My, my. Pretty spry - no wonder his son's still active.

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