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8/14/07, 2:08 PM #1

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>Sometimes it's rewarding to get an answer to a question that I used to know the answer to. Or I just think I knew.

Here's the question....what is it called when you extend the tenon through the other end of a mortise and drive a peg through it?

Thanks in advance,

Marv

PS....OT....A 40 kilobyte image will not upload into a message. The file size has to be less than 40 kilobytes. 39.9 works but 40 doesn't.

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My name is Marv Werner. I live Northern California, in Lake County. I retired in 1999 after owning an electronics business that produced coil assemblies for Hewlett Packard, Snap-On-Tools and other similar companies. I was in that business for 19 years. During prior years in the San Francisco Bay Area, I was vice president of two different companies. Got tired of the rat race and moved to Lake Co. in 1976 and sold real estate for four years. Hated it because it didn't involve getting my hands dirty. I have a combination woodworking and machine shop in the lower story of a house that I built back in 1981. I have a great interest in hand tools in general but am most involved with collecting and restoring old handsaws. I sell some on eBay and also do custom restoring and saw sharpening. The amount that I have learned here on WoodCentral is immeasurable. One of the things I've learned, I'm pretty much of a hack compared to so many people who frequent this site.

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8/14/07, 2:17 PM #2

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>Do you mean when the tenon extends through a mortise that breaks the board on both sides? If so, it would be a wedged through tenon/mortise.

Pam

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8/14/07, 4:03 PM #3

Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.
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Tusk tenon?

Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.

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8/14/07, 4:03 PM #4

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>There are a number of ways of putting a piece of wood through a tenon to lock it in place. "Handwork in Wood", by William Noyes, is a book available at gutenberg.org that illustrates a number of ways to do this. The section on mortise and tenon joints ought to have a picture that matches what you have in mind.

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8/14/07, 5:00 PM #5

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8/14/07, 5:07 PM #6

Pam Niedermayer
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Yeah, could be, depends on what wedge is used.

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8/14/07, 10:42 PM #7

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>Could not visualize what the poster was talking about earlier today.

Wedged Tusk Tenon

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8/15/07, 12:13 AM #8

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret
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>If it is pegged through the mortice and tenon it is a pegged mortice and tenon joint. If there are wedges endgrain in the tenon it is a wedged mortice and tenon joint. If the peg or wedge is exposed and passes only through the tenon on the outside of the mortice it is a tusk tenon joint.

Stephen

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8/15/07, 1:31 AM #9

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>Hi Stephen,

Thank you for putting it perspective. It's the "tusk tenon joint" that I was trying to explain in my question.

Marv

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My name is Marv Werner. I live Northern California, in Lake County. I retired in 1999 after owning an electronics business that produced coil assemblies for Hewlett Packard, Snap-On-Tools and other similar companies. I was in that business for 19 years. During prior years in the San Francisco Bay Area, I was vice president of two different companies. Got tired of the rat race and moved to Lake Co. in 1976 and sold real estate for four years. Hated it because it didn't involve getting my hands dirty. I have a combination woodworking and machine shop in the lower story of a house that I built back in 1981. I have a great interest in hand tools in general but am most involved with collecting and restoring old handsaws. I sell some on eBay and also do custom restoring and saw sharpening. The amount that I have learned here on WoodCentral is immeasurable. One of the things I've learned, I'm pretty much of a hack compared to so many people who frequent this site.

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8/15/07, 9:26 PM #10

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>Sorry to be different but this is a tusk tenon. Notice the wedge direction and also the extra dadoes. Used as a structural joint in the joists around openings in floors. Also take note of the ratios in relationship to the joist sizes. The tusk is the protrusion under the tenon and resembles the relationship between an elephants tusk and trunk, the trunk being the tenon.

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8/15/07, 9:44 PM #11

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Sorry to differ

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret

>It is also called a Keyed Mortice and Tenon joint.

Stephen

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8/15/07, 10:50 PM #12

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>Thank you Peter,

Thank gawd for steel galvanized brackets for attaching joists....

Marv

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My name is Marv Werner. I live Northern California, in Lake County. I retired in 1999 after owning an electronics business that produced coil assemblies for Hewlett Packard, Snap-On-Tools and other similar companies. I was in that business for 19 years. During prior years in the San Francisco Bay Area, I was vice president of two different companies. Got tired of the rat race and moved to Lake Co. in 1976 and sold real estate for four years. Hated it because it didn't involve getting my hands dirty. I have a combination woodworking and machine shop in the lower story of a house that I built back in 1981. I have a great interest in hand tools in general but am most involved with collecting and restoring old handsaws. I sell some on eBay and also do custom restoring and saw sharpening. The amount that I have learned here on WoodCentral is immeasurable. One of the things I've learned, I'm pretty much of a hack compared to so many people who frequent this site.

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8/15/07, 10:52 PM #13

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Exacty what I was thinking of...

Marv

>Thank you Stephen,

Your diagram shows exactly what I was thinking of when I posed the question.

Marv

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My name is Marv Werner. I live Northern California, in Lake County. I retired in 1999 after owning an electronics business that produced coil assemblies for Hewlett Packard, Snap-On-Tools and other similar companies. I was in that business for 19 years. During prior years in the San Francisco Bay Area, I was vice president of two different companies. Got tired of the rat race and moved to Lake Co. in 1976 and sold real estate for four years. Hated it because it didn't involve getting my hands dirty. I have a combination woodworking and machine shop in the lower story of a house that I built back in 1981. I have a great interest in hand tools in general but am most involved with collecting and restoring old handsaws. I sell some on eBay and also do custom restoring and saw sharpening. The amount that I have learned here on WoodCentral is immeasurable. One of the things I've learned, I'm pretty much of a hack compared to so many people who frequent this site.

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