For Roy Anderson...

Re: For Roy Anderson...

Marv

>Scott....

MAGNETS...

Marv

Nooooo!!!!!.... Ahhhhh!!!!!!!! ;^)

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

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Re: For Roy Anderson...

Roy Anderson

>Scott:

Thanks for the info and the pic.

How are the handle inserts attached? It looks like brass woodscrews in the pic.

Marv:

Thanks for your suggestion on magnets. I think they would work, but somehow they just don't fit the design concept that I have in mind. In the final analysis, I have my heart set on a more "woodsy" solution.

Re: For Roy Anderson...

Marv

>Hi Roy,

I'm both a metal worker and a woodworker, so I guess I tend to lean in either or both directions when problem solving and I like to go for the more nontraditional methods at times. Most people will use the "outhouse" door lock technique but Scott is right about the magnets collecting bits of metal such as steelwool and the like and yes your saw blades might become magnatized. In reality, they often times become magnatized anyway. I sharpen handsaws and backsaws and often times am bothered by metal adhering to the teeth while filing. Maybe the friction causes it by realigning the molecules, I'm not sure. It happens to other tools by just hanging around so it must be some kind of magic. I'm sure someone can tell us why and how it happens in minute detail plus how to demagnitize something. Maybe someone will tell me how to build a demagnitizer into my saw vise.

Anyway, good luck with your project. Scott did a beautiful job securing his saws. I was just kinda needling him with that last post *smirk*

Marv

Yep,

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Brass wood screws. It look nice when you get the slots of the screws all facing the samw way (in the same plane). Kinda like gunsmiths do.

Outhouse door lock...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Now that's a term I'll need to remember!

I know you were just yankin' my chain Marv!

Re: Yep,

Kevin French, Antrim, NH

>W-A-Y too many Back Saws.

How can you say that, Kevin?

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I count a minimum of five Yankee screwdrivers, eight eggbeater drills, and seven braces in your workbench pic in another thread, plus I-don't-have-time-to-count screwdrivers and/or chisels behind the bench. I don't think four backsaws is excessive, though I do think Scottie needs to replace that pitiful coping saw with a micro bowsaw.

Bill - I think I have six backsaws, not counting the five or six miter box saws, but I'M not defensive, no, not me.

Re: Easy.

Kevin French, Antrim, NH

>My count is 10 yankees but, I thinks there one hiding on the bench somewhere.

I have eight (8) Backsaws myself, not including six (6) 22" (or longer) mitre saws.

A few more eggbeaters

Marv

>Last count was about 89...

Marv

Re: magnetisation

paul womack

>yes your saw blades might become magnatized. In reality, they often times become magnatized anyway. I sharpen handsaws and backsaws and often times am bothered by metal adhering to the teeth while filing. Maybe the friction causes it by realigning the molecules, I'm not sure.

If molecules are "shaken around", they will tend to be aligned a little by the earth's magnetic field. This is analogous to what would happen if you had some grains of rice scatterred on a plate.

If the plate is horizontal, and is not jogged, nothing will happen (obviously)

If the plate is horizontal and is jogged, the grains bounce around, but remain scatterred.

If the plate is tilted (a little) but not jogged, the grains remain where they are.

But if the plate is tilted AND jogged, the grains will gradually arrive at an arrangement dictacted by the tilt.

It is similar with iron molecules. If they are disturbed, an opportunity is created for the earth's magnetic field to influence how they settle, despite the field not being strong enough to disturb them in the first place.

An English explorer called Scoresby used this idea to create a larwge and powerful magnet, using some (initially non magnetic) iron and a hammer.

http://www.newi.ac.uk/buckleyc/magnet.htm (halfway down)

BugBear

Your right Bill..

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I do like my MF coping saw, but it does leave a bit to be desired. A bow saw (or 2 or 3) is on the todo list.

Naaaa...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>My condolences Kevin. I've added a 12", 14" and 16" Disston's to the gang since.

Hmmm, I wonder if this has anything to do with my comment about your clamps...

Re:Double Naaaa...

Kevin French, Antrim, NH

>I know the light in which your comments are made.

I know I have more tools than some, less then others. I'm not trying to be the 'Winnner', as in. 'He who dies with the most tools wins.'

Although I may be in the running for 'He who has the most tools and paid the least for them.'

He who dies with the most tools...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Still dies...

I have a feeling your last comment is right on Mr. dump mister.

Just remember, Your never to young to grow old.

S/he who dies with the most tools...

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>helps set up the shops of the grandchildren or nieces and nephews.

Just used one of my inheritances from my revered uncle, a 7/16" crow's foot wrench, to install the faucet in our sink (appliances tomorrow, yahoo!) - Ikea, according to its pictographic instructions, somehow thought that you should be able to fit a crescent wrench into the space behind a sink, and supplied a mounting stud that is a good inch longer than the deepest reach of my deep socket, and that with a rod-connector-nut length nut! I'm always careful to say under my breath, "Thank you again, Uncle Charlie."

Re: I bought one of those 30 years ago

Glenn Madsen near San Francisco

>and have used it maybe 10 times. It's still a good investment.

When you need a special tool, and it's still where you last put it away, it's a good day.

Good luck on the appliance stage of the kitchen!

Re: S/he who dies with the most tools...

Kevin French, Antrim, NH

>Inheritances yes, so long as they know what the stuff is. If they don't, is how I got so many.

Re: S/he who dies with the most tools...

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Although I may be in the running for 'He who has the most tools and paid the least for them.

In the running? I've got a feeling that you may be out in front! Somehow that statement really hurt a little, I think it's pure jealousy. ;~)

T.O.

Re: S/he who dies with the most tools...

Kevin French, Antrim, NH

>Now that I've got you com'n clean- It doesn't stop with tools.

I've found stuff across the board. I've been told I need to start a shop to sell all this 'Stuff' I've found. I could but, it's the keeping it stocked that would kill all the fun I'm having. I've converted a couple guys who everything had a price and nothing moved without money being exchanged. The guy that GAVE me that Husqvarna Chain Saw, a couple years ago it would have cost me $40-50 for that saw. The first time I gave him something he wanted to pay me. THAT's the fun of this, I find stuff, I give stuff away, I get to keep the/most of the best stuff.