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liquids in unheated shops

Michael Recchione

>This is probably a stupid question, but I've never let that stop me before...

My move into my new shop space (the space formerly known as "the garage") is progressing slowly as I wait for calls back from electricians. In the interim, I've been floorplanning, cabinetplanning, you-name-it planning, as well as clearing out 18 years of junk that's accumulated.

One of the things I've been wondering about is what to do about some of the liquids I normally keep handy in the shop. I know honing oils won't freeze (I've had a small shop out there for a while now, and stuff with large amounts of organic solvents seems to have done ok. I was wondering what happens to things like water-based stains, glues like Titebond, etc in shops that don't have heat on all the time during the winter. Do I need to store this stuff in the house?

Thanks in advance,

- Mike

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Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.

>Hi Mike,

One thing you could do is make an insulated cabinet with a lightbulb and a thermostat inside (maybe a small fan too, for even heat distribution). That will keep your stuff from freezing...

Take care,

DC

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Jack Guzman from Maine

old fridge

Jack Guzman from Maine

>Michael,

Some people use an old refrigerator to insulate liquids from the cold.You could probably disable the door/light switch so it was always on for a heat source.

I haven't had the need to try this but it sounds good.---Jack

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VTAndy4

>Do not let Titebond freeze. DAMHIKT.

-Andy

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Thanks!

Michael Recchione

>Thanks, guys! I'll think about the old fridge notion - I have a small one that might do the trick. Or I can just keep the more delicate water based stuff in the house - it's an attached garage, so it isn't that far away. I'm just trying to get as much stuff out of the basement as possible.

I'm curious what people did when shops were typically in uninsulated, self-contained buildings. When my grandfather was an apprentice in Italy in the early 1900's, one of his jobs was to get up early to get the fire going in the fireplace before the Master got there. It gets pretty cold up in the mountains of Central Italy during the winter, so it must have been below freezing in the shop. Then again, they didn't have Titebond to worry about - they just mixed up hide glue.

What do people who use waterstones do, I wonder? Don't the stones crack when the water freezes? I left oilstones and oil out in the garage all winter, and there were no issues.

- Mike

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guidelines

Bill Tindal, E.TN

>Anything that is an aqueous suspension of stuff will coagulate after some number of freeze thaw cycles- latex paint, Titebond glue, Ancorseal, water based finishes. Aqueous solutions may freeze and separate- booze- but reconstitute upon thawing if the container doesn't break.. Anything formulated with an organic solvent-lacquer- will likely do nothing but get colder.

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Robert Henderson

>What does DAMHIKT mean?

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Don't Ask Me How I Know That

Paul Kierstead

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Greg B�tit, Vergennes VT

>I have a small box of glue & waterbased stains, etc. that I keep in the house during the winter. When I head out to the shop I always bring it with me. (I also include a small jar of water for general purposes.) The box stays in the shop during the warm months, but in the middle of November or so, I again start carry the stuff back and forth between the house & the shop at the beginning/end of each day.

greg

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Perfect solution! Thanks!

Michael Recchione

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Ernie Miller

>Here is what I do I have two shops it started out as a winter shop and summer shop but turned into a hand tool shop and a power tool shop hand tools in the heated basement power tools in the garage shop. Most of the liquids stay in the power tool shop inside an institunational refridgerator One door is for combustables and the rest is for small power tool storage. it locks easy to keep theves out and air tight for liquids I haven't ever had any thing freez in it. I don't have it wired to cool so I don't keep extra beer in it. but if George would bring a couplecases of home brew this way I will find room to keep it cool

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Michael Recchione

>Thanks, Ernie. I was doing the same thing with the winter and summer shops, but the summer shop turned into mostly a woodcarving shop (though I had dupes of most of the important hand tools in it, too). Now I'm consolidating everything into what was the summer shop (the garage), bringing up the lathe and drill press as well as building a new, bigger (hopefully better) workbench... The old shop space will just be for music and recording.

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Marv

>Michael,

How bout an ice cooler? The kind you'd use for your beer. Ya think that would work?

Marv

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Michael Recchione

>I really like the idea of a box that can be brought into the house and back during the cold months. There are really only a few things that I use that would be in danger from the cold. Titebond, Gorilla Glue, etc, and that's almost all of it. I use latex paints and stuff so rarely, I'll just keep them where they are now. Most everything else I use is oil based.

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