Best line ever in a woodworking DVD

Re: Best line ever in a woodworking DVD

Jim Shaver - Oakville, Ontario

>Hi Wilbur,

I know, I had a smile when I heard that phrase while watching it myself.

If any of you have not met Chris yet you have no idea how funny he is in person or sharp witted his informed comments are, a real pleasure.

I think this is an excellent DVD, I shared it with a friend who was just begining...I wish I had had something like this 10 years ago myself.

I have to go, I have some tulip wood shavings on the bench I need to smell....

Take Care,

Jim

Another guy I loved to listen to on DVD is Dick Sing, he was on the Woodworking at Home DVD magazine. He had a segment called a Turn for the Better, anyway I used to bust out laughing at his dry humour...man he is funny!!

Thats pretty good...

John in New Mexico

>Especially after reading the sweating in the heat discussion below. Nothing bucolic about working up a sweat ;)

John

Maybe this is male-specific wit? Can you explain?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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Re: Maybe this is male-specific wit? Can you expla

Ernie Miller

>I had to go visit Webster�s! It's beyond my comprehension

I may be missing it...

John in New Mexico

>but I take it as an observation that working with hand tools usually takes a lot more effort and stamina that shoving boards through a table saw or planer.

John (who does both!)

Au contraire

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>The American Heritage definition from dictionary.com: "Of or characteristic of the countryside or its people; rustic."

Working up a sweat is ever so bucolic; so are smells.

Bill, pleased to be living in a county that's still got some bucolic parts, even as the money people invade.

Re: Au contraire

Marv

>Thanks Bill, I was just reaching for my dictionary....Just too many words in our language. It seems we could communicate quite well with only about 600 words.

Marv

About 850 Apparently *LINK*

Paul Kierstead

>For Basic English (see below).

Or about 1000 for ASD Simplified Technical English which would probably work for woodworking as well with the addition of specific technical terms. Like, say, Rabbet (which still seems to garner some confusion...)


Basic English

Re: Maybe this is male-specific wit? Can you expla

Jim Shaver - Oakville, Ontario

>Hi Pam,

I don't think it's male specific at all.....in the DVD Chris's comments are as Wilbur stated....sort of touching on the illusion of teh romanace for some of using hand tools vs power, the illusion often being that of when many of us first decided to use hand tools before we came to the understanding that hand tools are not slower or less accurate etc etc etc....

:-)

But the converted like yourself know that ...for some the begining of that transformation is offered with many paths to choose from.

:-)

The DVD is really well done, informative and very entertaining in Chris's own way.

Take care,

Jim

Thats what I get for not looking it up...

John in New Mexico

>I guess thats why a painting of cows in a field is bucolic :)

I always figured it meant kinda rustically quaint. durn $10 words

John

Re: Maybe this is male-specific wit? Can you expla

wilbur

>Hi Pam,

I think his point is that many hand tool aficionados look at hand tools as being some sort of back to nature, slow down, stop and smell the roses approach to woodworking, when in fact one can do things very quickly with hand tools. The subtext being that it's one thing if power tool users think that hand tools are slow, it's another if the hand tool users themselves have that feeling, especially when it's misguided.

It is much better with Chris' delivery.

As for me, I seem not to be doing much of anything quickly, whether it's with hand tools or power tools.

Wilbur

Re: Thats what I get for not looking it up...

wilbur

>Actually, "Durn Northwestern University graduate" is probably more to the point, as Chris got part of his journalism training from there.

This is coming from another Northwestern University graduate, who finds himself using words like "bucolic" more than he should. :@)

Re: Hmmmmm...

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I see. But using hand tools does have its romantic aspects. Hand tools do allow you to slow down and smell the roses and listen to the music.

I'd think the funniest thing would be a droll rejection of the next to the last statement.

Pam

want to smell wood?

Bill Tindal, E.TN

>then visit a furniture factory where a few thousand feet are in process. I am especially fond of the smell of cherry when it gets heated a bit with the table saw. I don't hand plane fast enough to generate that amount of heat.

I missed the point of the quote too, but then I am always asking my wife "what does that mean?".

You're pretty close

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>The definition I chose was a bit incomplete, since the word generally connotes "the lovely countryside" - one definition uses the word "idyllic" - in other words, ignoring the grittier realities.

This county used to be primarily dairy and (right around here) apples, until the major agricultural industries became wine and tourist-fleecing, but there's still a lot of dairy. Newcomers get a little upset when the dairy folks manure their fields, since you can smell it all over town. Cows are pretty to look at (as long as you ignore their backsides), but, for most, not so pretty to smell. In light concentrations, I kind of like the odor - you know the cows aren't plastic that way.

Point I was trying to make.....

Christopher Schwarz

>Mostly, I'm just glad I can say the word "bucolic" without sounding like "boo cow lick." And I got to use my college education that I paid so dearly for.

The statement leads into a discussion about how people think hand tools are slow and power tools are fast. I actually think that the two perspectives are evenly matched when the hand tools are wielded by some with skills in (and this is important) a bespoke furniture situation.

Gotta do 1,000 doors? Get ye a shaper. Gotta do one? Get a moulding plane.

Chris

there are more compelling reasons

Bill Tindal, E.TN

>I saw how hand tools would fit in my results oriented shop while visiting the College of Redwoods. Nothing beats hand tools for the precise removal of small increments of wood. Hence, hand tools have no equal for fitting things to precise tolerances- miters, M&T joints, drawers and doors, etc. For achieving shapes for which common cutters are unavailable, again hand tools have no equal. But for a whole lot of other operations, hand tools use is driven by factors other than productivity.