In a month, I'll be saying Goodby- Permanetly

Re: In a month, I'll be saying Goodby- Permanetly

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Avoid coffee? Hmmmmmmmmmm? Avoid Coffee? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Wonder what this means? Spacemam talk maybe? A-vo-id Cof-fee. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Still makes no sense. Canadian talk maybe? Avo-id Co-ff-ee. Hmmmmmm?

Gomer, we'd better go find Andy, I'll betcha' a fountain drink over at the drug store that he'll now what this means.

T.O.

Coffee

"RJ" Whelan

>Todd ... "... or be aware of"

Just a heads up: my favorite smoke of the day was the one I had while drinking the first cup in the morning and watching the sun rise from my front porch. The coffee (smell and taste) were a powerful intoxicant and proved to be the hardest stimulant (to light up) to overcome.

Good Luck!

Brad in Ottawa

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Ernie Miller

>You know my favorite part of the day is drinking coffee watching the sun come up on the veranda waiting for the dog to do her buisness. If I quit drinking coffee will the dog no longer need to be taken out tod o her buisness? Ah to heck with I'll just keep drinking coffee waking up in the morning and not finding my name in the Obits is the best part of my day unless it's sitting on the terrace watching it go dawn we have some really great sunsets here in KS

Re: In a month, I'll be saying Goodby- Permanetly *LINK*

Robert Henderson

>Try this book!

I smoked almost 40 years (three packs a day for most of that time)

Tried many different ways of quiting.

Read this book and stoped for a few weeks. Started again for a couple of months. Read it again and stopped for good. I didn't even finish my last cigarette.

That was november 2001.


Alan Carr's Easy Way to stop smoking

Congrats, ToddO

Ted Owen, Pittsburgh

>I hope the transition goes smoothly for you. Good luck.

Best, Ted

Re: smoking

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I've cut down quite a bit by rolling my own and am working on quitting completely again. Don't know that I can make it by 7/30 though, will give it a try.

Pam

Butt out Pam

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>C'mon now 7/30 is still a month away, I think you can ween yourself down by then to make it. C'mon now Butt Out!

Every time you need to roll a smoke stand in front of a large fan to do it, that should be aggravating enough to make you quit.

T.O.

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Tom MacGregor

>I quit a year ago last January and am very glad I did. I really do feel better. Don't just plan to quit - plan how to deal with the cravings in advance. Talk with people who have successfully quit and get some phone numbers to call when you're going nuts. The absolute best way to deal with an addiction is to use backup from people who've been there. Don't sabotage yourself by insisting that you "should" be able to do it solo. Good luck!

I would have thought...

John in New Mexico

>That all that nice Austin humidity would make the papers stick to your fingers. I used to try smoking a pipe instead to cut back, which kinda worked with the physical aspects of chemical craving, but didn't help much with the psychological associations - which ultimately I found hardest to break.

John

It is easy, I have done it a half a dozen times

Stephen Shepherd in the State of Deseret

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Thanks, guys. I did this once for a year. The easiest way to quit smoking is to run out of money, which I did in 2003; but on a trip to San Francisco the next year I rented a car and toured the redwood forests. I stopped at a gas station/snack bar to go to the bathroom and they required that I spend some money to get the key. Of course, it was all crap snacks laden with sugar, but sitting right there was a pack of American Spirits. I was done for. However, it took several months to get back up to speed.

This story sucks.

Pam

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ThomD

>That's why I never started, because I would have reached for the candy and the smokes.

:)

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Yeah, that was my plan, too; but U. Wisconsin put a smoker in my room. I figured that if I smoked maybe I'd be able to breathe, which was true, but....

Pam

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Michael Recchione

>I tried the pipe with the opposite effect - I found I was inhaling it, so the physical addiction was worse than ever. Soon I needed to be sucking in huge, dense lungfulls of smoke to satisfy the craving. Quitting THAT was a nightmare. I never, ever want to have to do that again. It was many years ago. I just realized that I quit smoking cigarettes half my life ago (I'm 54 now). So it IS possible.

But I took up the pipe about 18 years ago and only did it for about 6 months - that was physically harder to quit than the cigarettes. Why take up the pipe after being smoke free for almost 10 years? Simple: we moved from our 4th floor walk-up apartment in the city to a house in the 'burbs that had a fireplace. I thought it was cool to smoke a pipe while sitting in a rocking chair in front of the fire. Talk about stupid! I paid for that one, anyway.

I just realized that I have no vices left. What a boring human being I've become! Maybe I should start gambling or something...

Well, there's always collecting hand tools

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Some - usually life partners watching the wallet shrink and the piles of stuff in the shop expand - think that's a vice in itself.

Pipe smoking

Jerry Nicholson

>My dad was a long time pipe smoker. He had to have half of his tongue cut out when he was 75. He could still talk pretty well and they got all the cancer. He died at 84 when his heart decided to retire.

Jerry

Been there, done that

Michael Recchione

>I always thought I was missing the collector gene. But as I prepare to move my shop from the basement to the garage, I realize that I might have suffered from an almost worse condition: Chronic Accumulitis. In the first few years of discovering hand-tool woodworking, I managed to acquire a ton of stuff I'll never need. I haunted garage sales and flea markets and gobbled up more common planes, chisels, saws, braces, etc. and so ons than any sane person should have (Has anyone ever come up with a use for a breast drill?). I didn't spend a lot of money, but I brought each one of those things home and spent the time to clean it up, tune it up, sharpen it up... which means that I have more of an emotional investment in the stuff than is healthy. Which in turn means that it's really hard for me to part with any of it. Which means I have to store it... Don't get me wrong - there were some pretty good scores in there. But mostly a lot of doubles, triples, quadruples of ho-hum stuff.

The sickness was so bad that I couldn't pass up a garage sale - even to the point where I routinely made myself late to work on Fridays - once I almost made my family miss our plane back from vacation to hit a garage sale that I saw the sign for on the way to the airport (I got a really nice #65 for $1 at that one, along with a couple of English style turnscrews for $.25 apiece).

I started weaning myself when I realized that I had no place to put any more stuff. I'm proud to say I haven't stopped at a single garage sale in two years, and only hit one flea market last summer - and didn't buy any tools.

So, no thanks - I'd just as soon start smoking again! :-)

Am there, doing that.......

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>I try, I try, but to no avail not to buy the common stuff just because it's cheap, and yet, still, I do it. Giving up smoking is proving to be easier than giving up rust. Went to a flea over the weekend and dragged home a lightly raggety #5 and a few more chisels. I got the #5 because right on the toe, just in front of the knob it says: No 5 now, I know I don't have one of those, and I haven't even bothered to look on the typing pages to find out. It's rough but salvageable.

As for the chisels, how do you pass up a nice 1/8" wide one that has been sharpend like a knife across it's end for $0.50? the other chisel as an in cannel and cost me $1.00

At any rate, my justification for buying rust is that if the economy ever collaspes like it did in '29 than these things might suddenly be worth a lot of turnips. Ya' never know ya' know.

Give it up Mike, there is no known cure for "Chronic Accumulitis". Just build the needed storage as you go and deal with it. That's what I've resigned myself to do anyhow.

T.O.

Re: Am there, doing that.......

Michael Recchione

>Todd, I may be a white-knuckle dry-drunk (or whatever the rustaholic equivalent of that is), but I've been rust-free now for a good two years. I'm going to try to muster the willpower to create a SINGLE set of my best users. And then I'm going to put the rest of them away in tupperware tubs, out of sight. And they'll only come out when one of the using set either breaks or wears out.

Ok, so maybe it won't be just one of each thing - you don't want to have to stop to sharpen right in the middle of doing something important... And it IS awfully convenient to have two #5s and 2 #7s, each set up differently. And the woodie smoothers look so good on the shelf, it would be a shame to put them away, even though my well-tuned #4 with the Hock blade is the smoother I mostly reach for, and ... and.

This IS really hard. Once you've spent the time and effort to bring an abused and disused hunk of rust back from the dead, you get kind of emotionally attached to it. At least I do. Especially the ones I made handles or knobs or totes for... sigh. And useless though they are, breast drills do look mega cool hanging on the wall...

I just think about how much fun it will be to use a shop that isn't so cluttered I can hardly move around in it...

How many cigarettes would pay for ...

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Good onya Todd!

I quit 25 years ago. Never touched a ciggie since. It took about 2 years, however, before the twitches (what to do with my hands) were gone.... :)

Without wading through all the responses - so I do not know if this question has been asked or answered - how many packs of cigarettes would pay for a custom Anderson infill?!

Regards from Perth

Derek

What does an Anderson infill cost?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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OT... An Anderson infill costs...

Conger � the Irish diaspora in Munich

>... an awful lot of cigarettes... but a lot less than a human life!

Way to go Todd... live long, live healthy, live happy!

-gerard-... who loves visiting pubs in Ireland now, without smelling like an ashtray afterwards. When is the rest of the world going to wake up to the cost (in every sense) levied on mankind by the tobacco industry?

Re: OT... An Anderson infill costs...

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Conger, some of us really need nicotene to cope with this world. I asked my doctor a few years ago what he'd recommend instead. He said valium. I knew I needed to keep my brain, so continued smoking. Now that I'm not working, I no longer need to cope with anyone other than the stray gov't official here and there, so stopping smoking is more reasonable.

Pam

OT... the addiction

Conger � the Irish diaspora in Munich

>Pam... I am not a passionate 'anti-smoker'... indeed not. But I passionately feel for those who suffer from addictions / dependencies, and that includes many smokers.

I do also passionately enjoy places I can enjoy without being impinged on by unwanted noise of smell. That is why it is so nice now to be able to visit a pub in Ireland, and listen to the local heroes playing music, without having to be concerned with passive smoking.

Pam, I value you very highly, and encourage to grab the challenge... and kill the nicotine addiction. Good luck, -gerard-