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Workbench re-do, not done, but close enough 1of 6

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Well, as many of you know I've been busy for the past week or so redoing my workbench. I had just built this one not to long ago, but for some reason there was something about it that just didn't suit me, but I couldn't put my finger on just what it was. After reading the article by Chris Schwarz in the June's issue of Popular Woodworking about the 10 Rules of workbenches I realized what it was---it was too wide! I had the top 6' long and 3' wide, which according to Chris they cannot be too long, but the width is quite important, and in most cases DO NOT need to be more than 24" wide. Well, the problem with this is that I had seen several narrower benchtops--Hank Knights, Mike Fitterlings, and Jim Reeds, and I always felt that they looked to be to narrow which I didn't care for. I had asked all three of the guys how they liked their "narrow" benchtops, and all three said they really liked it. Well, I finally decided to bite the bullet and try a narrow benchtop on for size, so I cut my 36" one down to 22.5". Coarse, nothing is as easy as it sounds, or goes as quickly as we all imagine it will, but after 7 days of working on it I finally finished it this evening. Well o.k., not quite finished, I still have to flatten the top again, and put a finish on it, but for all pratical intents and purposes it is finished.

One of the things I wanted to change was how my board jack fitted onto the bench. I orginally had it with a slot in the underside of the benchtop itself for the top to slide in, and a "foot" made up of a 2x4 sawed in half lengthwise sandwithched between two full width ones for the bottom of the board jack to ride in. I didn't like that foot as it had the apperance of just being stuck on as an afterthought, and I didn't like that. What I wanted was for the board jack to be integral to the base itself, and during the re-do process I went thru several design changes, and ringy-dingy-do I came up with a design that accomplishes just that.

If you look in the first picture at the bottom rear of the base you'll see the end of the foot sticking out, well that's all gone now. :~)

I did loose one row of dogholes by making the top narrower, and wouldn't you just know, the row of holes on the fron't side of the bench fell in line with the frame of the base, so I had to bore thru the 2x4 so my holdfasts would slide thru. I was concerned that with such a deep hole--5", that the holdfasts wouldn't grip, but they do, so that worked out alright. I also removed one 2x4 from the fron;t of the bench so that the wagon vise would be closer to the edge, and thusly easier and more comfortable to use. I'm glad I did that, and now I don't have to lean so far over the top to use that vise.

Also, you'll see two corners of the board jack itself are clipped, that is so I can tilt it a little when either putting it in or taking out.

I'm glad that I made the top narrower, during the rebuild I had occasion to clamp some stuff to the top for sawing and planing, and it was so nice to be able to get clamps on both ends of the wood, and it was easy to put a clamp on the backside as all I had to was reach over the top, which I couldn't do when it was 36" wide.

I hope the pics I took of the board jack, and how it slides within the base are clear enough to be self-explaining, but if not feel free to ask for more pics and info as I'd be happy to comply.

First pic is the bench before the re-do

T.O.


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Glenn Madsen near San Francisco

>It looks happier now, narrower and easier to work with.

I like the practical drawer joinery, too!

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Paul in NJ

>It looks a lot better Todd. I have made major changes to my bench three times over the years. It gets better each time.

Paul Dzioba

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Kevin French

>Tell me you're not a consumer of AB products. Oh nice work on the bench, it sure make it easy when tools are at hand. Now all you need is a little overhead storage.


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Nice Job

Mike Fitterling

>The proportions of the bench look much better. And thanks for posting the details of the board jack, something I want to do on my bench. Good job, Todd.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>No Kevin, I almost never consume pure mountain spring water contaiminated with yeast and barley. Can't even remember the last time I had a beer. Might of been the Amber Bock I had down at Mike Fitterlings a few years ago. In my youth I used to consume that stuff like water, but after my last beat down from Jack Daniels on July 4th '95 I swore off anything harder than beer and along with that also pretty much killed my desire to consume any alcohol products. Don't miss it a bit.

The boxes you see come from the dumpster of the local mini-mart and I use them to store small cuttoffs that I really should toss, but can't bring my self to do.

What's the one that you show? I've never seen it before? Local micro-brewer?

Got that deck finished yet?

T.O.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Your welcome Mike, hope you can glean an idea or two out of it and perhaps even improve upon it. I have to laugh at myself over the evolution process that the board jack went thru to finally end up the way it is. If I was smarter I'd design stuff either on the computer or at least on paper before cutting wood which would make things easier for me, but alas, I's knots dat brite of a feller.

Ahhhhhhhh well, no matter, things usually turn out right for me in the end, which, I like to think is do to total determination, perserverence and sheer cussedness, but truth be told I think it's mostly just Pure Luck. ;~)

T.O.

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Stuart Hough

>Good job Todd. It looks like you have a right proper workbench now. It just looks so much more well-proportioned now. I think I'll use those proportions when I build my fisrt real workbench. Thanx for the pics!

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Any time Sturat. Now, I will say that Chris Schwarz recommends 24" wide tops and mine is only 22.5". I dunno if that's gonna bite me arse or not, but I'm willing to find out. Wouldn't be the first time I've bit me own arse. The top over hangs the base by 3" one the front and back and right at 18" on each end. Seems to be pretty stable. Also, if I was to build this bench again, I'd use at least edge glued 2x6's instead of 2x4's just for the add'l weight, but would also give strong consideration to 2x8's.

I built this base primarily as a prototype, so I used the cheap softwoods 2x4's. None-the-less, I think it'll do nicely and I should get many good years of service out of it I feel.

Chris, Chris, YO! CHRIS! What do you have to say about 22.5" wide benchtops? Yea or Nay? At any rate Chris, I just want to let you know that because of you I've now chopped a huge hole in my benchtop for the wagon vise, and now I've eliminated 1/3 of my top, I dunno, if I should hit you or hug you. ;~)

T.O.

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kevin French

>It's Double Bag by Long Trail, made in VT. It's a "STrong Ale" a great beer.

As for the deck I'm still fighting with HD. I got the decking they owed me and have got two corners to finish and should be done tomorrow. But we're still fighting about the hand rails , guess I'm going to have to take it to a higher court.

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Great job Todd O

Hank Knight in SC

>I agree with Dave Brown's comment above about it being really difficult to rework something you've built. My hat's off to you. You did a fine job and the bench looks great. I like the new proportions much better. I'll bet the narrower top opened up some room you can use for shop storage. ;>)

Hank

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dave brown

>Bench is looking great Todd! Congrats on a successful rebuild.

regards,

Dave

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Ernie Miller

>Todd that's way to narrow! I think you need to make it the regulation 24" so fix that befor flattening. I don't know there are alot of other problems with it also. have you thought about ripping every thing out to the studs bench cabinets every thing and starting over? maybe do it righ this time. you can't even blame it on to much beer! No really it looks god to me I wouldn't mind comming buy and chopping some Dt's on it just for kicks I could possably make it down there the second week in July but I would have to be home for Christmas is you wife a good cook?

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Back among the living eh...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Lookin good there Toddie ol boy. How did you attach the top?

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>One thing I forgot to mention in my orginal post was that my top is held to te base by two pieces of 2" angle aluminum. One side is screwed into the base and the other into the underside of the top. I just used common 2" lag bolts.

T.O.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Todd that's way to narrow! I think you need to make it the regulation 24"

-I will not conform--at least until I discover that 22.5" is problematic. Gotta live on he Wild Side a little ya' know.

so fix that befor flattening.

-Flattening? We don't need no stickin' flattening.

I don't know there are alot of other problems with it also.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell everybody, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh! Looked real good 'til Mr. Pretty Bench Dave Brown came along. Dang you Dave! ;~)

have you thought about ripping every thing out to the studs bench cabinets every thing and starting over?

-Give me a week, and I'm sure that I can come up with a reason to do just that. I've always got to be twiddling' with something I swear. Kinda' like the thicker legs for putting holdfasts in. Dang you Dave.

maybe do it righ this time.

-Define right. I thought I had it right 3 times already. Does right exist?

you can't even blame it on to much beer!

-Yeah, me and my big mouth I've got to go and ruin the best excuse making opportunity, and readily acceptable device known to Mankind. I'll never learn I swear.

No really it looks god to me I wouldn't mind comming buy and chopping some Dt's on it just for kicks

-Dovetails? In my shop? No, no, it's all butt joints and dry wall screws.

I could possably make it down there the second week in July

-Come on by, would love to see ya'. Do you like cats?

but I would have to be home for Christmas

HA! You'll be making your excuses to leave long before that I'd bet. do you like Army stories, Navy stories, Back when I was in Maine stories? Brother, I've got a million of 'em.

is you wife a good cook?

-I can't complain, but than again I'm easy to please. Do you like rice morning, noon and night?

T.O.

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Ernie Miller

>So much for the cheap florida vacation this year. Now what am I going to do?

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Why not go visit Al Stokka? I bet he could entertain you for hours with stories on how he was outsmarted by the woodchuck.

Can't fiqure out what putt you off in coming to see me. I'm thinking it must of been the rice. ;~)

T.O.

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Ernie Miller

>I went and visited AL once that lasted about a day. some how I think visiting him was a berrer idea than going to Florida.

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