Interesting Touch Mark

Re: Interesting Touch Mark

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Yeah, that is pretty neat. It's always fun to find something different. Is it in a plane or did you find it on the loose?

Sharpen it up and see what'll do and let us know.

T.O.

Re: Interesting Touch Mark

MikeW

>Nice one, Stephen.

And here's another. Only real relevence is to the symbol at the top...

Guess it appears on English tools as well...

Take care, Mike

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Rob Brophy...lost in Niagara

>Hi Stephen,

Yeah, some of those old touchmarks are pretty cool. I have a couple examples of the John Bull mark...

The plane is stamped 'Tyzack/Railway Arch/345 Old StreetEC'...a mark that Goodman dates from around 1905 to 1913ish. The blade appears original to the plane so this might help date your iron (if you care)...Rob

close ups...

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Miles

>Tyzack refers to a tool shop called Parry Tyzack which used to trade in the Old Street area in London. They still have a store near there, I found it once some years ago, but I don't recall if they had the range of quality tools that they had historically. My father remembers that this store was well known, throughout the postwar period and presumably before too.

So it may be that the stamp you have is the merchant's one, rather than a maker's mark. I suppose it's likely that Tyzack had tools made to be sold under their brand, but I don't know if they had a special manufacturing facility.

Next time you are in London, you'll have to look them up!

Miles

Are you sure???

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Tyzack is/was a tool maker I thought. I have their saws.

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Rob Brophy...lost in Niagara

>I agree Scott,

W L Goodman, in his book 'British Planemakers from 1700' lists Samuel Tyzack at 341, 343, 345, and 347 Old St at various times in his career and until 1976. He also mentions Henry Tyzack, and Sydney Tyzack, but nothing about Parry. I'm not saying you're wrong about Parry, Miles, but I suspect the John Bull stamped items came from Samuel's shop.

Peter Hyde spent a number of years working in London as a Chippie...wonder if he knows anything about Parry Tyzack? HEEEEEEYYYYY PEEEEETEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!! Now where the heck is he?

Rob

Some genealogy *LINK*

Wiley Horne--So. Calif.

>Hi All,

Turns out that one of the modern Tyzack's maintains a genealogy site on his family. The Tyzack's trace themselves way back, to the time they were a glass-making family in Lorraine, France, in the 1400's. French name was 'Thyssac'.

Anyway, the link below, courtesy of the Tyzack website, provides some modern history of the sawmaking/toolselling family, from the mid-1800's. Even shows a photo of Samuel's premises at No. 345 Old Street under the railway arch--this lot was No. 8 prior to 1871 when they had a renumbering ordinance.

My interest: I have a very high quality moving filletster, with tripe dovetail boxing, marked (in 3 lines),

Tyzack

Railway Arch

345 Old Street

See link below for history...

Wiley


'The Tyzacks of Old Street'

Re: Some genealogy

Peter Hyde

>That is one very interesting piece of British tool making history, thanks for the link!

As a London chippie in the 50/60's Tyzack was certainly a well known brand name to me. I can also add that even though the Tyzack saws were "Warranted Superior" they were no match for Henry Disston IMHO.

WOW, How would have thunk...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Neat link there! Thanks for sharing!