York Pitch Frogs

Re: York Pitch Frogs

Dean J in MN

>Do you have a spare blade for your current smoother? (I assume you have a BD smoother) Put a back bevel on it and give it a whirl on the woods you work with. Perhaps that will not only answer the question, but save you the $$$ of a frog/new plane. :)

-Dean

I find a difference between them...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I have the LN4.5 with the York pitch frog and I can tell a difference between it and a Stanley 604.5 (with a Hock iron and thick chip breaker).

The difference becomes very apparent when working with jungle wood and things like birds eye maple and evil wood with changing grain patterns.

Personally I don't find the higher pitched plane any harder to push, so I wouldn't bother switching frogs back and forth.

Re: York Pitch Frogs

Norman (Ottawa, Ont.)

>Tom,

I have a LN No. 4 Bronze HAF (York pitch) and I don't find it any harder to push than a Standard Pitch plane. I do like it very much however, it handles squirrely frain woods better in my opinion.

Another small side benefit, in many cases, I don't need to flip a board around on either straight grain or wild grained woods ,

it handles the grain orientation well without tearout.

Norman

Re: Essential Readin'

paul womack

>Lyn J. Mangiameli's High angle smoothing plane comparison

BugBear

Great Article

Thomas Skaggs, Foothills of Mount Level

>Thanks for the link to that article. And thanks to all for the responses.

Tom

Re: York Pitch Frogs

Andrew F in Australia

>Hi Tom,

see the post of the jointer I cobbled together one or two posts up.

It works beautifully on the figured wood - 60 degree pitch (a.k.a. middle pitch)

Similarly, York pitch is better than standard pitch on figured wood, or stuff prone to tearout.

I made this as it was my only option to do the job.

Cheers,

Andrew

some links **LINK**

Andrew F in Australia

>link 1 [also click on the making shavings link from this page]

see page 8 of this pdf from lee valley

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: York Pitch Frogs

Dave Thompson

>Hi Tom,

I see a noticible difference in tearout planing hardwood with a standard or York or higher. If you can imagine the back pressure of a fiber climbing the pitch prior to cutting, you might be able to imagine how it helps.

The draw back with using higher angles is that they are harder to push, and if you don't keep your blade really sharp, and plane well bedded, the chances of the plane skipping increases (more so at 60+ degrees).

Personally, I smooth most of my hardwoods at York. (Standard angle with a jack & jointing). While planing pine, I noticed it tended to fuzz up more at York pitch. Other I know have experienced the same. I haven't noticed this with other softwoods like Red, Cedar or butternut. Personally, I wouldn't bother switching the frog back and forth. It's a lot of futzing with a (presumeably nicely set plane).

enjoy,

Dave