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OT - kitchen appliance brands

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>We're getting ready for a kitchen remodel, and are looking at appliances.

One salesman (whose store happens to carry Wolf and Viking ranges) says they get 20 years of use, while other brands get from 6-7 to 12 years.

Another salesman, different store, says that Bosch ranges get 20 years of use, and he's seen problems with Wolf and Viking ranges.

Anyone have any thoughts, experiences, etc. to offer?

Also: we're leaning toward a Bosch dishwasher (yes, electrons washing dishes; we've been 34 years in this house without, and LOML figures it's time to have one). Opinions?

Thanks for any help with this off-topic subject. Well: I suppose I could try cleaning my planes in the dishwasher, and of course there's always tempering cutting irons in the range...

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Mick Foley (Berkeley, CA)

>We've have a Bosch dishwasher for about 6 years and love it. It get stuff clean and is very quiet. We've had not problems with it at all.

For stoves, I have no advice - we have a 50+ year old WedgeWood...

Mick

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Mick Foley (Berkeley, CA)

>>We've have a Bosch dishwasher for about 6 years and love it. It get stuff clean and is very quiet. We've had not problems with it at all.

Ouch, I really need to read carefully before I hit the post button. That should have read:

We've had a Bosch dishwasher for about 6 years and love it. It get stuff clean and is very quiet. We've had no problems with it at all.

Grammatically humbled,

Mick

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Barryvabeach

>Bill I bought a Viking dual fuel stove 10 years ago - it had an electric element burn out within the first year or so and other than that it has been perfect. My F I L has had his for 6 years no problem. Another friend bought a different high end stove ( his sister bought one two, and they each had one problem after another ( it used an electronic control to set the oven temp which allowed you to set it to come on at a certain time but the board burned out three or 4 times in the first year and when it did you couldn't use the oven) From everything I read, for most people, including me, the only real justification for a high end stove is I really wanted it and could afford it. Your food will taste just as well if you use a lower priced model - Kitchenaid Pro , Kenmore, maytag, GE Monogram make really nice equipment at much better prices. If you go with something basic ( no complex electronics ) I would think they all would hold up well. Consumers reports has looked at the higher end appliances a few times you may want to go to the library before you put down 4 - 5 thou on a stove. All tnhat said, I still love my viking.

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Edward in Vancouver

>This is a tricky area. Allmost every N. American kitchen appliances are made by either GE or Whirlpool. Kitchen-aid is made by Whirlpool, Kenmore chooses whomever.

For stoves, electric ones, even the most basic plain-jane ones usually last for 20 odd years. Nothing much to break down, and if an element burns out, you just trott off to the hardware store for a new element. Gas stoves are weird. From 0 to around $700.00 there's nuthin but crap: 8,000 btu burners made of crimped recycled beercans, but over $1,000 some decent stuff comes around.

Now here's where it gets really funny. Wolf is more famous for it's commercial (restaurant/hotel) ranges. A basic Commercial 30" 4 burner/oven unit (heavy duty cast iron 25,00 btu burners and s/s clad welded steel frame) would cost around $2,300, A basic residential unit comprised of 4,18,000 btu burners and oven starts at around $3,500. What gives? The commercial unit isn't rated for residential use. Lots of local fire, and gas code issues.

Basically the Europeans and Asians have us N.Americans beat hands-down in appliances regarding design, economic use of energy, safety and innovative features.

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ben

>I have read consumer reports and as I remember it they stated that the high end comercially inspired stuff (wolf...) typically has more problems than the upper end residential models (whirpool, GE...).

I have kenmore now and hate it but not enough to replace it, cheap stuff that contractor put in the house. Last place we had an upper middle whirpool dish washer and loved it, should have ripped it out and moved it with us. This is the first ceramic top electric stove and I don't think I will get another. The only thing that tells you the top is hot is a stupid light and it stays hot for a while.

If you have small children around ofter, Stainless is high maintenance with finger prints.

For the dish washer: I would gather up the typical dishes you will use most often and take them to the show room. There are a few dishes that we use almost everyday that fit like a champ in the whirlpool but are a no go with the current one; very annoying.

For what it's worth I haven't found a sales person yet that knew more than the broucher, installer for that matter as well.

Good luck.

Ben

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