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Rusty Miller

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Rusty Miller

>Posting pics drives me crazy.

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Jim Reed @ Tallahassee

>How did you get them past SWMBO?

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Rusty Miller

>She oked the MFT 1080, but doesn't really know about the chisels and saw. I do some pen making so I use my extra income from that to get my flat woodworking tools. She's a big quilter and gets anything she needs for quilting so I figure it evens out.

The chisels are Blue Spruce and the saw is a Wenzloff with a mesquite handle. The saw if fantasic. I had a LN dovetail saw and liked it very much, but Mike's saw just starts so much easier. Haven't had a chance to use the chisels yet but hope to soon.

Rusty

I think that deserves

vlparisian - Houston

>a great big ... YOU SUCK.

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Victor

Ohhh, Ahhhh, Oooo... Nice toys!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>but Vic got it wrong, Rusty deserves a YOU SUCK!!

So, what do you think makes Mike's saw start easier than LN's?

How can I get my wife into quilting?

T.O.

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Rusty Miller

>Maybe Mike will chime in and tell us. All I know is it works. I've heard of people sending their LN saws to Mike to get them resharpened.

Now I have to save up for the mesquite handled tenon saw!

Rusty

saw starting *LINK*

Ian (in Sydney, Australia)

>This was discussed a few months ago on the Australian forum in the context of an original Independence DT saw that Derek had Mike sharpen.

If I understand it correctly, Mike puts a little more "fleam" on his saws compared to LN. This makes them easier to start.

To quote Mike:

Fleam is the angle of the face of a tooth. Looking down on a saw's toothline, it is the bevel angle of the tooth. So properly speaking, a rip tooth is filed straight across the saw plate. A cross cut is filed so each tooth is alternately beveled one to the right, next to the left, and so on.

Viewed from the side, the amount a tooth leans back [or forward in a pull-saw] is called rake.

So adding a little fleam/bevel angle to a rip tooth but keeping the rake to near zero can make the saw start smoothly as each tooth is slicing the wood a little verses acting like a chisel. By keeping the rake to near zero, there is little trade-off with how fast it cuts. But there is always a trade-off.

The fleam angle needs to be consistently and alternatingly from side to side, every other tooth, else the saw will cut off-line.


What Mike did to Derek's Independence DT saw

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mikew

>Hi Todd,

And before I forget, thanks to Ian for reposting--saves on typing.

The trick to adding fleam is to do so without hampering, or hampering as little as possible, the speed of cut--not that speed is everything. But as much as I like sawing joinery, I do like to get done before fatigue affects my sawing.

So the relationship between rake and fleam comes into play. As does what the saw is intended to do and the woods typically used. So do the size of the teeth... and ...

Rusty's saw was fun to make. Mesquite is a neat wood to work. I never really used it much before making saws and I have only made a couple from it.

As to getting yoru wife into quilting...I'll leave that up to you!

Thank you, Rusty, for the kind words.

Take care, Mike