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easing edges-how?

bill tindal, E.TN

>How do you all ease edges. To be clear two planes surfaces make a sharp edge. To strengthen this edge it should be eased (rounded over a bit). I find a plane tedious for this task. Files are about right but my inept filing technique usually leaves a rough surface. Sandpaper works ok.

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Darrell in Oakville

with a block plane...

Darrell in Oakville

>and yah, it may be tedious, but if you have a cool enough block plane, even tedium is fun!

Darrell

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User


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Glenn Madsen near San Francisco

>If I'm doing a kitchen, I use electrons, a trim router and sandpaper.

If it's fine work, then a LN standard angle adjustable block plane, a 9 1/2, IIRC.

There is never one correct answer, and there is seldom sufficient shop time to do everything the 'fancy way'.

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wilbur

>So far, I like using a plane the best. One pass at 45 degrees, and one pass splitting the difference on either side. I find it faster than files, rasps, or sandpaper overall. Sometimes (15-20% of the time) I'll go over the edges with sandpaper after planing, but for me planing+sandpaper is much faster than sandpaper alone.

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Paul Kierstead

>I am rather surprised you find planes tedious for this. It takes very few swipes of the plane for a light chamfer or even a rounder profile. It is very very little work. What process are you using? Perhaps it can be streamlined?

I also occasionally use a small round-over plane, but it is fraught with its own dangers....

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Driveby alert!

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>That was underhanded, Darrell...you were just waiting for the right question, right?

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Concur

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>It's the quickest way I can imagine to do it.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Block plane for me all the way. Coarse, I've never worked on any mega-dollar kitchen cabinets either, and I don't klnow how fussy the buyer could be, but for my purposes it's the block plane that gets the job.

Todd O.

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Oooooo Darrell.....

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Show us and tell us more about that plane, it looks Super Sweet! You also qualify for a YOU SUCK!

T.O.

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Re: with a block plane...

Donald Pierson

>Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User and SHOWOFF!

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I have a cool little Preston chamfer shave for this job, which has two wings under the cutting edge to help me keep it on the line, so to speak. You can pull or push. Very fast and fun to use. I also think the various Japanese planes designed for this job would work very well, all of which also have wings of a sort.

Pam

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Preston chamfer shave *LINK*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Hey, happened to stumble on a photo a few minutes ago.

Pam


Preston chamfer shave

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David Charlesworth

>Wilbur's technique is spot on. The three facets approximate very well to a quarter circle.

If you want a larger radius, softer edge, it is nice to work with two planes.

One set fairly coarse to remove the bulk and one set fine to polish the result.

By counting the large shavings it is possible maintain an even result all over.

If you start with a fine setting it can take many shavings and be frustratingly slow.

Bench planes, or 09 1/2 block plane are best for long grain edges if the grain is complex.

60 1/2 low angle block plane is good for end/cross grain edges.

David Charlesworth

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I like leaving a facet from the block plane on the edge; a simple three swipes at aproximately 45�. I keep a block plane set up for this; it does not need to be a high dollar infilled wayne anderson special. In fact, a Craftsman block plane will do just fine if the blade is sharp. Recently of course I happened to get a the LN #101 (I think thats the right number) and I really like using this little plane. This is really one area that can be a subtle hint that the craftsman actually knows how to sharpen and use a hand tool. At my dad job, edges are slaughtered regularly on kitchens costing upwards of 20K with a piece of folded sandpaper.

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Darrell in Oakville

SJBT Kit *LINK*

Darrell in Oakville

>That was a rough casting kit from Saint James Bay Tools.

If you want the whole sordid story, follow the link below.

Darrell

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User


SJBT Block Plane Project

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I grab either one of these . . . 

dave brown

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Re: I grab either one of these . . .

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Dave, what's the little squril* tailed one on the left? New? Vintage retro fitted with new blade and lever cap? Am I seeing it wrong, or does that tailed one have a scrub plane style blade profile?

Todd O.

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I suspect *LINK*

Bill Houghton, rainin' here this evenin'

>(where the Russian River flows down to the sea. Cue the banjo)

I think Dave just drove right over your foot, Todd, showing off his LN tools. See below.

Am I right, Dave?


Looks a lot like this

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I suspect you're right

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>I didn't know that LN had that squirrl tail block. Sheeeeeeeeeesh, Ol' Tom is really crankin' them out isn't he!

Years from now thew flea marketers are going to have a blast. I wonder of his #1 sales as compared to his other tools. Will the LN #1 be the highly sought after plane like it is today?

On that note, has anybody actually compared a vintage #1 to the LN #1, and if so how does it stack up?

I'd buy one myself, but I can't do that bronze, and last I knew you could only get it in bronze.

Dave, you big Galoot, GET OFF MY FOOT!!! ;~)

T.O.

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Re: I suspect

dave brown

>lol

Yeah, you're right. It's the LN. I picked it up at a woodworking show because it was cute and cheap but when I got it home I was surprised at how versatile it proved to be.

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Re: I grab either one of these . . .

dave brown

>Hi Todd,

Actually, I meant post a photo of the LN 100 but the one pictured is the LN 100.5 The 100.5 has a convex sole, hence the scrub shaped blade. Good eyes you have!

Dave

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dave brown

>The one that's gonna be rare as hen's teeth is the no9 in bronze or the 25th anniversary smoother.

I'd love to find a no9 bronze but I bet it'd go for over a thousand on eBay now.

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