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Vise held shoulder vise 1 of 2

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>This is not the completed version of the vise held shoulder vise that I am intending to make within the next few days, but is instead a few pics of the shoulder vise that is on my other workbench. For now I think it will serve the purpose of showing what I intend to do, and will give enough info for George and others to get started on theirs. I cannot take credit for this idea as it was either Carol or perhaps Johanna that first posted a pic of it.

At any rate, I'll be posting two pics.

The first pic is a frontal shot. Notice that I have two lengths of 2x4's for the long arm, than three shrter pices for the depth. You can certainly add a few more pieces to make the opening bigger if you wish, just don't exceed the capacity of your bench vise.

The rod is 3/4' all thread, which passes thru a nut and washer that have been welded together. In the washer I drilled three holes for screws so I could attach it to the arm. The handle is nothing more than I pipe "T" with a dowel thru it. I drilled right thru the "T" and the all thread, and cotter pinned it with a nail. The dowel I cross-drilled on each end and stuck in two smaller pieces so the handle won't fall out. You can make the handle as long or short as you desire.

The second pic is to show the foot. First, you see the nut and washer that have been welded together and again, cotter pinned to the rod with a nail. This assembly acts as the "pusher" of the foot. These is a small gap between the washer and the foot which tends to make the foot a bit floppy, but that's alright. In the foot I bored out a cavity big enough for a 3/4" nut to rotate in, and again, cotterpined that nut to the rod with a nail. This nut acts as the "puller" to pull the foot back, and to give it something to work against I screwed a washer in front of it as you can see.

Note that I cut a groove in the three "depth" pieces, for the tail on the foot to ride. This pretty much was for the purpose of keeping the foot from rotating 360 degrees. Mine is a bit of sloppy fit, but you can make yours tighter if you so desire.

now, instead of attaching this to your bench, just slip it into you benchvise and WA-LA! a removeable shoulder vise. You could also make a crachet to put into your bench vise using this idea

Hope these pics help, and will be happy to post more if so needed.

Todd O.


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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

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Cool

jim reed @ tallahassee

>I'll bet if you had a buddy with a lathe he could make you a proper handle for that vise.

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Re: Cool

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Hey! Hey! Don't go bad mouthing my handle! It functional,cheap and easy to make, what's not to like about it? ;~)

T.O.

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Ernie Miller

>I don't understand how the pusher part works? how does it spin freely Could you just weld up that part and the nut with the washer. I have plenty of 3/4" all thread. (I love Dumpsters)

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Part of what I like about your vise

Bill Houghton, 19 deg F @ 6:30 am, Sebastopol, CA

>is that you used what you had and that it's not fancy hardwoods, expensive hardware, etc. - but it works. I think we often get trapped into thinking that we've got to spend lotsa money to get started on this stuff.

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Nice ingenuity

Stephen Kirk in Quakertown PA

>Simple yet elegant and works like a charm, plus you still got a regular vise. I've kinda wished for a shoulder vice at times, but didn't want to have to retrofit an entire bench. With this idea, I don't have to!

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Jon Grace

>That's sweet. Nice job there.

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Very cool...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>One more thing to think about as I contiune the design of my bench.

Thanks for sharing Todd.

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Scott! Stop! Scooooooott

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Ah, so, you're designing are you, glad I caught you in time. As you know I recently finished my new bench. Basically it is nothing more than a slab with a metal vise attached to it. I felt that I didn't want, nor need a tailvise--HOWEVER, upon reflection, I wish now that I had made one of those small enclosed tailvise sort-rigs, and may just incoporate one in the near future, or something similiar to it. Something to think about/consider anyhow.

T.O.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Ernie,

The "pusher" is a nut and washer that is welded together, than it is cotter pinned to the thread rod so that it stays in place. The nut that is the puller is behind the washer that is is attached to the foot in a cavity and is cotter pinned to the rod so it also stays put. What makes the whole thing go back and forth is the nut.washer assembly that is attached to the long arm up by the handle.

So, really, the only moving part is the rod.

T.O.

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Re: Part of what I like about your vise

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Thanks Bill, that really feels good to hear!

Sometimes one has to sit back and sort themselves out, and decide just what it is that they want or not want in Life, and I decided long ago that #1 I didn't want to get caught up in the rat-race to deeply, and I avoid that by not getting myself into deep debt for consumerable items, such as automobilesand other such foolish "toys" and that #2 low-tech is fine with me. Folks did quite well for themselves for centuries by "keeping it simple", and I saw no reason why I couldn't follow suit.

I find the world to be completely out of control, but in my world all is calm, all is good, and I like it that way just skippity-do-da fine. :~) I just wish I was in a rural living environment, but for now I'm doing my best with the current situation. I certainly have my druthers, but I also have to consider the wants and needs of my Wife and Daughter, so for now I'm in Jacksonville Fl. trying to live within my own little self-made Peaceful world.

More than you wanted to know I'm sure. T.O.

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Re: Nice ingenuity

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Thanks Stephen, I certainly wish I could take credit for the idea, but alas I cannot, I'm merely sharing an idea that was shared with us awhile back. I hope you build one and that it opens up new woodworking avenues for ya'.

T.O.

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Thanks Jon! :~)

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

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Been there, done that...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Oh Todd, I been working on designing this beast for 3 years now. Just as I finish stealing one idea from someones bench and incorprating it, somebody shows one with someother nifty ideas I need to steal from theirs. Well... that's going on long enough.

When I'm done with it, I hope it will be the last one I make.

At least this idea is somewhat easy to incorprate into the existing design...

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Re: Been there, done that...

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Yup, I hear ya' Scott. I seen this and that, and this and that, and said i've got to have it, than I finally said to myself and said "Todd you dumb arse,just be true to yourself", so I built a simple slab. Outside of not having that enclosed tail vise I think it's the bomb.

T.O.

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Have you seen C. Schwarz wagon vise? *LINK*

Wendell @ Murphy, Tx

>Chris added what he calls a "wagon vise" to his Roubo bench. It's a tail vise that's not too complicated.

Wendell


Wagon Vise

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THAT'S IT!!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>wendell, that is EXACTLY what I was talking about! THANKS A MILLION! I've got to read up on that, but first--I'm going to bed. Nighty-night Ernie.

T.O.

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Re: Nice ingenuity

Stephen Kirk in Quakertown, PA

>I have a face vise on one bench, but no vise on another. Now I'm looking at your pictures wondering if I could build the shoulder vice and find a way to mount it to my unvised bench. Maybe there is some way I could slip a holder or clamp of some sort into the dog holes ... It's a good thing for me to look at while sipping coffee on a Saturday morning.

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Ernie Miller

>Got it now just couldn't visulize it in my mind. so how about welding up a couple nuts and washers for me I don't have access to a welder. I hit the mother of all dumpsters yesterday you will not beleave it. it was as good as cash and they even loaded it into the truck for me.

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Re: Nice ingenuity

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Stephen,

Here's an idea. Build your shoulder vise to the depth that you think would be just right, than on the back of the last spacer piece attach a piece of say 1/4" plate steel. In that plate steel cut out some keyholes--top smaller than bottom--and than route out the wood behind them. Now, where you want to mount this vise screw in two long lag bolts to correspond with the keyholes. Leave the heads sticking out just enough for the keyholes to slip over them, and thus "hang" your vise onto them.

Now, using the same technique, you may want to make a cover to put over the bolt heads when the vise is not in use to prevent snagging them with your body.

T.O.

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paul womack

>This is not the completed version of the vise held shoulder vise that I am intending to make within the next few days

Any inspiration taken from this?

Jack Kamishlian's similar

(I am sorry to say Jack died recently)

BugBear

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>That is in fact the actual one that was posted a month or two ago that I got the idea from. Thanks for finding it BugBear.

I think mine is the just the dumbed down version of Jacks.

Sorry to hear of the loss of Jack. I didn't know him, but any friend of yours is a friend of mine.

T.O.

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paul womack

>Sorry to hear of the loss of Jack. I didn't know him, but any friend of yours is a friend of mine.

Friend (albeit virtual) to many, I think:

heartbreaking thread on OLDTOOLS

BugBear

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paul womack

>BTW, on origin, I don't know of an older source than (well...) me, in a discussion with Pam Niedermayer, back on Badger Pond, 4th march, 2001.

The initial inspiration was this:

http://pages.infinit.net/perrons/Paul/Woodwork/Workbench/Woodvise/woodvise.html

BugBear

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