Calling all saw hounds: Panther Alert *LINK*

Re: Calling all saw hounds: Panther Alert

John K in Hastings, MN

>I think it will go higher. It isn't painted over or anything, and it is certainly a rare saw.

I'd bid on it but....

Rob Brophy...lost in Niagara

>...charging ten bucks for shipping is outrageous! :-)

Rob...who found a lovely 40 1/2 scrub for considerably less today

Re: I'd bid on it but....

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>I already have two of them. One 5 1/2 tpi rip, and one 12 tpi crosscut. :~)

OK that's a lie.

Todd O.

Re: I'd bid on it but....

greg forster

>I have part of one

file this under major blunders

You can't stop there, Greg

Bill Houghton, 21 deg @ 6:30 am, Sebastopol, CA

>Got the head? One saw nut? Confess!

Very Odd

Jim in Burlington On

>I'm no saw expert but why is the blade is such mint condition yet someone has monkeyed with the saw nuts?

$400 - $500 saw tops

Todd Hughes

>I think this seller is being VERY optimistic hoping to get $3,500 for this saw. I always wonder why sellers like this don't start the auction off low and use a reserve at least that way they would know what the thing is worth. I guess ebay fees would be slightly higher but I would think worth it to know what the thing is worth....but again maybe they don't want to know, eh?

While this saw looks to have nice wood it has several very large problims such as no medalion and I guess no etch.Is pretty plain that the handle has been off the saw which makes you wonder if the blade is the original or not. With out any etch you just don't know, of course you don't know if any etch remains because the seller doesn't mention it. This is strange to me but then I find it amazing that a person is trying to sell a saw for $3,500 and can't even go to the trouble to tell you how long the blade is and if it is straight or bent or if it has any missing teeth.

I think if the saw had it's medalion and a weak etch that told you the blade was correct it would be worth maybe $800-$1,000 ...as is probably 1/2 that and maybe worth mostly as a parts saw for a nice one with a damaged handle ....Todd

Mint ...! ?

Todd Hughes

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I second that opinion

Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I see nicer panther head saws than that one at just about every M-WTCA meet I go to for around $1200. That is, the asking price is $1200; they are usually packed up and taken back home. The pictures of this saw are not very clear, there is absolutely no description of the condition of the saw, and the seller obviously hasn't a clue what the saw is worth. Not sure what it costs to list a saw at $3500, but I am sure it is not cheap.

Re: I second that opinion

Ian Smith (Sydney Australia)

>The seller mentioned the Vintage Saws website in his blurb so I checked it out. Here is a link to the panther head saw that is for sale on that site. You can see where the seller got the idea to start his auction at $3500.

As an aside, do you think the claim that "only about 30 of these saws are still in existence" is a bit off the mark? I found a reference to the the saws on the M-WTCA website that mentioned 25 of the saws being owned by members of that association. Surely there are more than 5 panther head saws in the hands of people who aren't members of the M-WTCA.

Regards,

Ian Smith.

Re: I second that opinion

Todd Hughes

>Guess when the ebay seller lists the no.7 saw he talked about he will start it out at $175 now too , eh?

I always wonder how people come up with stuff like "only 30 " still in existance ....guess they looked in every barn and basement to come up with that number.

... I know of 3 local guys that found ones including one bought for $5. Kind of nice to know that 10% of the worlds population of Panther head saws were found with in 30 miles of me....may have to re think my opinon about me living in an old tool hell .....Todd [still waiting to find one]

Maybe I should contact seller

Bill Houghton, 21 deg @ 6:30 am, Sebastopol, CA

>I've got a (non-Panther) Woodrough and McParlin saw with good medallion - if that will improve the value of the saw, maybe I should offer it to him for, say, 25% of that $3,500 selling price...

Re: You can't stop there, Greg

Greg Forster

>I'm not a serious tool collector.My real interest is 18th c woodworking- the tools, buildings, furniture, techniques and "social systems" of the time. But, over the years I have uncovered alot of great collectables that passed through my hands to tool collectors. A Birmingham #1 smoothing plane, with a "correct" iron stamped not with "Birmingham Plane Mfg Co", but rather another local plane maker. From a late 19th c blacksmith's tool chest- one of the best full-body (and risque) pair of dancing legs caliphers ever; she starred in a Martin Donnelly's annual catalog(1998?) A mint Stanley #21 plane out of a barn in central NY; the requisite Chelor plane from an attic;a full set of Stanley H&R/ with the marked cutters from a bushel basket; a good number of 18th c planes(I've kept about 30), etc. etc..They have paid for my "user" hand tools many times over and I'm quite happy. But...

About 25 years ago, before knowing much about tool collecting, I wanted to

make a scratch stock for some molding.There were 50-60 old hand saws in the top of the barn and I thought I'd find one with a badly damaged blade to cut up. I like handsaws and sorted through them, looking for a hopeless case. Well, I found a saw- bent, pitted and it looked like something had taken a bite out of the blade (there was a large semi-circle part of the blade gone, to me, that's the best way to describe it)and besides a previous owner had altered the wooden handle- he or she- had carved a cat's head on each side ( I had a horned scrub plane, with a Butcher chisel minus the tang for a blade, where an owner had carved the horn into an otter shape- eyes, nose, mouth, it's great- my Mom has it). So..., I removed the handle, cut off a piece of the blade and "now you know the rest of the story"

The scratch stock worked perfectly.

The handle, and I think the remaining saw blade and hardware are in a toolbox in the hayloft of the barn. Next chance I get, I'll retrieve them and donate it to a worthy home.

I've got some really pretty acrylic paints.

Roy Anderson

>Maybe a barn scene with cows and flowers would enhance it's value, like the example below. I think it was saw number 31.

Re: Calling all saw hounds: Panther Alert *LINK*

Ian Smith (Sydney Australia)

>The panther head saw didn't sell with the starting price of $3500 and has been relisted at a more realistic price. The seller has also decided to include a Disston No. 7 this time around. As I type this there have already been 2 bids and the price is up to $260.


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