Water log (he-he !) . . .

Water log (no-no !) . . .

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>I'm not a fan of this practice. Those logs have been down there for a long time, and I'm sure they have become a major part of the aguatic eco-system. I say leave 'em alone. Sure the wood is nice, and sure there is $$$ to be made from them, but there are somethings that are more important than either.

Todd O.

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Dean Lapinel

>Hi Todd O.

You got my curiosity. Would you have the time to expand more on this topic or do you have a reference where I can read more about this concern.

Thanks,

Dean

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>No I don't Dean, just my personel feelings. Just seems natural to me that if you sink a log, or many many of them over time that aguatic life will build homes around them much like a artificial reef, and thus create a mini eco-system right there. Now, enter man, whom, for whatever reason removes them than that little eco-system is distroyed and the whole balance of things in this body of water is disrupted.

I'm sure that there are environmental studies to support my way of thinking, but I've never read them.

T.O.

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Perhaps that log is poisonous for that particular ecosystem and removing it opens up some more aquatic space for a viable ecosystem.

Pam

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Anything is possible I suppose Pam, but I do think the odds of that would be infatismily(sp)minute. T.O.

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Mike G.

>It's suprising how bad a body of water smells with a bunch of rotting timber in it. We're building a house on the edge of what used to be pristine trout waters before the former owners let old trees lay in the creek and muck up the waters. Native Trout have to have clean, cold water to survive. Now it's more like a very cold swamp. And of course in the summer, it's a breeding ground for Mosquitos and Biting Gnats. It might be different in deep water, but in shallow water, rotting water-logged timbers are a stinking mess plus being extremely unsightly.

Mike G. in SC

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Todd Hughes

>I think that most if not all of these recovered logs are logs that the only reason they are at the bottom of the water is because they were lost during transport after being cut...im other words they are thier artificialy and because of man and not part of the natural eco system. Sort of like dumping old tires in the river.If removed it would turn it back to like it was befor mans interferance.

... Now I am sure maybe they do provide some habitate but you have to think if you get that wood from other more tradtional sources you are going to be cutting down live trees that I am sure are more important to the eco system.

Kind of interesting but I normaly don't worry about such things ....Todd

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Stephen Kirk in Quakertown, PA

>I saw the one on Dirty Jobs, and while interesting, it's what they did with the logs that is truly saddening. They sliced these huge, beautiful old logs into veneer, sent it off where it was stuck onto some plywood, after which it became bland office furniture and got a coat of stain so dark you could have had OSB under it and not known.

But people pay a lot for it, so there you go.

There is a place out west where they found very old logs in a swamp. These were on the order of thousands of years old. Those are being milled and sold only to high end craftsman and some of the furniture has ended up in public buildings, galleries, etc.