Followup on dovetails 1/16" chisel?!

Re: Followup on dovetails 1/16" chisel?!

Ed Mulligan, Cape Cod

>Lee Valley has one.

http://www.leevalley.com/shopping/AddViews.aspx?p=46065

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=46035&cat=1,41504

It's not for chopping!

Ed

dovetails with 1/16" chisel ***PICS***

mikew

>I cannot imagine having bases of the pins so small to make use of a 1/16" chisel. Here's a picture of one of the referenced LV Detail chisels, only it's an 1/8" one. Bottom of socket is about 3/16".

Yeah, I know the tail board was sideways. Piece of scrap which was handy and I didn't need to square an end.

fwiw, I am using one of Dave Jeske's Blue Spruce chisels for DTs. I saw waste and pare with this 1/4" chisel.

Point is, the chisel does not need to be greatly less in width than the bottoms of the tails/width of pins.

I have the set of LV detail chisels, including the skewed ones and use some of them everyday. They hold an edge "ok" but not great. Certainly not like Jeske's chisels. But I do find them very useful. The 1/16" will flex under paring conditions, the 1/8" much less so.

Take care, Mike

'twas me

Andrew F in Australia

>Hi Bill,

here 'tis

No, it's not strong enough to withstand a mallet, but it maked paring out the corners of a tight dovetail easy.

Cheers,

Andrew

side view 

Andrew F in Australia

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Re: Followup on dovetails 1/16" chisel?!

thomd

>A story I have told about when LV used to sell Iyoroi mortising chisels was that the 1/8" ones had about a 100% return rate, according to the store manager. Whether that was 100 %, or "100%", I don't know. But I found out about it when I was returning mine, and I hadn't pounded on it or pried on it.

I think this is one tool where the western all heat treated/hardened model is actually superior. Chisels this thin cut with very little pressure. If you haven't learned to get chips out without prying, now would be a good time. Nonetheless, when the chisel bends it will help a lot if it has some strength and iron is not all that strong. The top of the shank where the weld peters out needs to be well scarfed. If it is blunt the chance of breakeage during missuse is amplified a lot. That said, I have several 1/8" chisels, and one or 2 1/16" chisles, and have not had a problem since that first. The Japanese ones are pretty wide in the other dimension.

Re: Followup on dovetails 1/16" chisel?!

Warren in Lancaster, PA

>I usually don't care for the very thin dovetail pins, so I've made them narrower than 3/16 only occasionaly. But I have no worries about hitting my 1/8 chisel with a mallet. I also have carving gouges in the same range which I habitually strike with a mallet. I use a lighter mallet than for mortising. With my Sorby 1/8 mortise chisel, which I've used for about 18 years, I use the heavy mallet.

My 1/16 chisel is a homemade job that I use for line inlay and carving. I made it from a triangular file. It is only ground to the narrow width for a little more than a half inch after which it is about !/4 wide. It is about 3/16 thick at the end of the bevel. I have struck this chisel with a mallet many times also. It would be easy to chop out dovetail waste with either of these narrow chisels.

thanks

bill tindall, E. TN

>I have some thin kitchen knife stock and I will make one of these soon.

Re: Followup on dovetails 1/16" chisel?!

Darlene

>Here is a photo of a Two Cherries 2mm firmer chisel. It is approx 16 thou of a inch wider than a 1/16" chisel. It is shown here next to a quarter. It has the ring on the handle which would allow it to be hit with a mallet, but to be quite honest such a small chisel with a sharp edge could be pushed through quite nicely, something like cutting butter!

One thing to watch with such a thin chisel, is to be careful not to put a skew on it when sharpening it. It is too easily done if you don't use a honing guide.

Darlene

Oops! Missed the pic 

Darlene

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1/10" mortise chisels *LINK*

dave brown

>You can find 1/10" LN mortise chisels


LN mortise chisels

1/16" 1.5mm Japanese Chisel

David Charlesworth

>Not up to photos yet, but I have a nice Iyoroi 1.5 mm mini chisel, which is quite happy with light tapping from metal hammer.

It dosen't get used often, but useful when needed.

The mini chisels are extra short!

See Dick fine tools catalogue.

David

Re: dovetails with 1/16" chisel ***PICS***

Todd Stock

>I've used chisels that narrow on the tails of a Jefferson lap desk - ground down from a 1/8" Marples. Those pins are really, really small - saw kerf width at the top and 3/32" at the base. More like miniature work than cabinetmaking.

Man is that a handsome chisel...

John in New Mexico

>I wish I hadn't seen that blue spruce!

John