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Milestone Day

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>As many of you know, back in '98 when I first started hanging out on WW'ing groups I was in Japan, and in the Navy. I had just started getting into handtools shortly before getting orders to go there for 3 years, so it really slowed me down in acquiring tools and skills. I officially retired from the Navy 4 years ago today, and have been in work of setting up a shop ever since. Well, after many many attempts at it, at apprx. 1 p.m. today with the completion of a shooting board, I declare my shop to be finished!!

In the past few months I have built a new bench, which is much lower than my first one, and I must say how much nicer than it is to use than my higher one. I've also built 3 floor to ceiling cabinets. Two of them are 4' wide and almost 8' tall, the third one is only 2' feet wide, and that is where I stow my chisels. One of the bigger ones holds my planes, and the other one holds my braces/bits, and saws.

Now this is not a showcase shop, it is all constructed of plywood, 2x4's, and drywall screws, but it is very functional, and I am completely satisfied with it.

After completing the shooting board I broke out my LN #9 and discovered that I didn't like it. It is VERY uncomfortable to work with IMO. I tried out my LN #7 one it, and I like it much better. I'll try it out later on reqular endgrain planing, but if it dosen't suit me it's outta' the cabinet.

I'll post pics of all this in the near future.

Todd O.

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Congrats

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Now, if you follow the old folk tale that what you do on New Year's Day is what you'll do all year, spend at least half the day in the shop making something.

By the way, if you do decide you don't like the #9, I know this nice charity out in California...

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Jim Shaver Oakville, Ont.

>Way to Go Todd,

I remember well the transformation going back all these years...It's good to know you have found your self in a place you like.

Let me know about that #9.... :-)

Happy New Year ,

take care,

Jim

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I can imagine the great feeling you have. You have my permission to sleep in today, go out for breakfast as a reward for all the hard work you did, and then just do nothing the rest of the day but read "A Cabinetmakers Notebook" by Krenov and dream about the projects you'll make.

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#9

Ed Mulligan, Cape Cod

>Todd -

I grip mine on the side - where the hot dog would be if it had one. Works better than the supplied handle IMO.

Good luck with your newly completed shop.

Ed

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David Charlesworth

>Todd,

A hot dog handle will improve comfort no end!

But at the end of the day one can shoot perfectly satisfactorily with a bench plane.

David Charlesworth

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Hey Bill, I like that idea. I'll be spending the day mucking about in the shop that's for sure. Seems I've for a lot of sharpening to do if nothing else. :~) Thanks for the Congrats.

T.O.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>It's good to know you have found your self in a place you like.

I wouldn't go that far Jim, my desires to get back to New England are just as strong now as they ever where, but I am learning to deal with not being there a little better in recent years. I have made it it explicably clear that I desire to be be buried there if nothing else.

I spend hours on Google Earth exploring my old stomping grounds and dang if I ain't finding roads and ponds that I never knew where there.

I know what you meant tho, and I thank you for it.

T.O.

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Re: #9 knob -- disappeared *LINK*

VTAndy3

>Check out the LN website -- the knob has disappeared and the hotdog is now standard.


sans chien chaud

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>and then just do nothing the rest of the day

Yeah Moses, like that's gonna happen. NOT!

I don't do nothing very well. ;~)

T.O.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Thanks Ed!

The worst place I found is right at the rear of the plane. I have a bit of a tender blister on the heel of my hand this morning. Perhaps a nice padded glove is in order--or tougher hands.

T.O.

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Nice Feeling, Huh.

Mike Fitterling

>Congrats, Todd! And Happy New Year, too.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Thanks David, we'll see about that. I have a lathe, perhaps I'll turn as there is NO WAY I'm going to pay $50 for one. I do think that a benchplane is just as good, if not better due to the longer sole. Do you use a #9 for other purposes than shooting?

If I can't make friends with this plane I'd be inclined to trade it for a LN #6 Type 1, or for a #2 and #3. As a first choice I'd rather trade than outright sell. We'll see how it all shakes out.

Dang, it's almost 9 a.m. I'm headed for the shop, this year is really flying by!

T.O.

T.O.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Yes Mike it really is! It's been a long battle. I can't count all the different tool storage cabinet designs I had built over the years only to be displeased with them and therefore dismantle them. These floor to ceiling cabinets are a spin-off of one of those designs tho, so the "evolution" was worth it.

Happy New Year to you and the Family as well!

T.O.

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I have news for you Todd!

Paul in NJ

>You never stop working on or improving your shop, now go and build something! I am looking forward to seeing the projects coming out of your shop.

Regards,

Paul Dzioba

P.S. Maine is one of my favorite places, I hope you get back there if only for a vacation.


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New project?

Jim Reed @ tallahassee

>Now you can build a chair to sit in while you enjoy the shop!

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Don't worry Todd...

Rob Brophy...lost in Niagara

>...now that you've been out of the Navy for four years you'll find that your hands will slowly start toughening up. :-) Happy new year buddy!...Rob

PS: we wanna see shop pix!!!!

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Thanks - good news :)

Ed Mulligan, Cape Cod

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Right on!

bill tindall, E. TN

>Looking to see PICs of fine furniture coming out of this shop. Let us know the first time you spill stain on the new floor, bench, cabinets.......

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Hey Todd...Good on ya.

I would get some thick wall pipe and slit it down and champher the ends before stuffing the works with wood for the hotdog. I can't invision just wood holding without splitting when you tried to secure it. The pipe would resist the set screws you could use to clamp it to the #9 and the stuffing would protect the cheek on the plane. Put your mind to the fabrication and you can come up with a very comfortable handle.

Oh yeah...Happy New Year!JR

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Well it's about time...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>You got all LN's out of the closet! Good on you Todd, congrats on getting it all together!

Finally...;^)

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You ain't lyin!!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>It's so funny, I went thru dozens of cabinet designs, and when this one evolved things took off like a rocket. The biggest difference in transforming my garage into a shop was the covering of the floor with plywood and painting it white. Once that was done the feeling within was completely different. I guess that grungy,dingy gray floor was a real brain wave killer, where's the brighter white is just the opposite.

Yup, after almost 10 years of being under my bed all the LN's are out of hiding now.

T.O.

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The #9, the hotdog, and factors in shooting.

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>I do think that a benchplane is just as good, if not better due to the longer sole.

Todd

I must make it clear that I have not used a #9, and my comments are extrapolated from using other planes (e.g. LV LA Smoother, LV LA Jack, HNT Gordan Trying Plane, #7 jointer, #5 1/2 jack plane, amongst others) in a similar setup.

I have always thought - and said - that the knob on the #9 appeared to be wrong in my conception of what this plane was designed to do, that is, shoot edges. On a shooting board one similtaneously pushes the plane against the shooting board fence and forwards. The best balance point for this is over the blade. The hotdog handle is designed for just this and, in my view, it is a good shape. If you plan to make one for yourself, try them in different sizes to fit your hand.

The question is "why the front knob"? I assume that this is so the #9 may be used as a bench plane. Mike Wenzloff, in a similar thread on another forum, stated that he found the knob useful when planing on a mitreboard. My argument is that you can use any plane for that task and that the #9 begs to be set up as a specialized plane for the shooting board only.

I think that you will like the #9 the more you use it with a hotdog handle. I do not like using a #7 on a shooting board. In fact, a #5 1/2 length is the maximum I will go. Smaller can be better in this instance since a plane for a shooting board takes its registration from the side fence, not from the work piece. In this it differs from a jointer plane and jointing an edge. For example, a LA Smoother makes a wonderful shooting plane and is very comfortable to use. The LA Jack is only preferred because it is heavier and when the extra mass and momentum are needed for harder woods.

Enjoy all your planes and your workshop time.

Warm regards from Perth for the NewYear.

Derek

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YOU DA MAN!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Now go have some fun!

Yo Todd... Show some pics!

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Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>Aw, be serious. It can't be four years, no way. I still remember your posts from both Japan and from the Kitty. You seem to have things under control on the shop front for the moment, but whatcha gonna do when you move back up this way? I seem to recall you making a couple comments about it being a possibility.

Best regards and Happy New Year Todd.

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