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Sightings is misleading

bill tindall, E. TN

>There are good reasons to plant trees but panting trees will have marginal long term effect on atmospheric carbon dioxide levels unless after they are grown they are buried in some anerobic environment where they will stay forever and maybe make coal or oil. The planet is not covered 1000' feet deep in tree mulch because wood decays and oxidizes and turnes back into cabon dioxide and water. I don't know if a forest temporarily fixes more carbon dioxide per acre-year than grass or weeds but I suspect the difference is not huge and I would place my bet on grass being better.

While I am on this topic I wish the Sightings would stay related to woodworking.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>Seems to me Bill that if the sighting are talking about Trees than it is still about woodworking. I feel that we as woodworkes need to be more aware of them, and more environmentaly friendly in our woodworking pesuits if for no other reason to keep us in good supply of our raw materials.

Todd O.

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Misleading?

David Miller from Iowa

>More power to freedom of expression on sightings content.

However, my take on the sightings was that it is promoting how far the participants in our little forum reached out into this big world. How many of the past sightings are related to geography and not woodworking?

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Warren in Lancaster, PA

>Temperate forest fixes carbon at a greater rate (1200g C/ sq m/ year} than temperate grassland (600g C/sq m/ year}. But of greater importance, temperate forest stores (sequesters) more carbon (12-30 kg C/sq meter} than does grassland (2 kg C/sq meter}. In a forest there is carbon everywhere you look.

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#5

Another perspective

woodburnbob

>Interesting. Good for you, Warren, for looking this up...or perhaps you have this stuff memorized, in which case my hat's really off to you.

Actually, I can imagine the handtool related argument in which one makes the case for removing all green things from the face of the earth. In time, oxygen would leave the atmosphere and rust would no longer be a problem. Granted, there might be other problems.

As an aside, here in Oregon, talk of forests and trees sometimes actually electrifies the air, especially talk between those worshipping at the Church of Logging-Long-Past and those worshipping at the Church of Leave-Earth's-Living-Things-Alone-Already.

I think I'll spend a little time this morning thinking about how I might reduce this whole thing into an even more fundamental and abstract principle of differences in human nature. My idea right now is along the lines of hunters and gatherers: The Takers versus The Keepers.

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#6

Interesting experiment...

John in New Mexico

>Anyone else notice the almost opposite reactions to Bill's post on the general message board and this one?

John

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#7

I "watch my tounge" over here ! More refined !

s.mackay@worldnet.att.net

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I don't really read anything in the sightings picture to say that trees remove more carbon dioxide than anything else in the world. In my opinion, the point was missed when it was originally read. The point I see in the sightings pic states that our world will be better off if we plant more trees than we harvest. What kind of college degree does it take to figure this out? Seriously. But I like to see people coming back with stats. The only problem is, I don't really care enough whether trees remove more carbon dioxide from the air to look up the stats myself just to check and see whether the stats posted are not just made up. I have great respect for anyone who can remove a winning shaving with a regular Stanley plane and iron, and I tend to believe what they say because of it :) So I went back and compared the two threads, and did not see a whole lot of difference, other than Warren's post over here.

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#9

guilty conscience?

dave brown

>Geez, did the picture of planting trees hit too close to home? A guilty conscience perhaps?

Personally, I like the idea of planting trees. Something about putting back a little of what you use--it's good for the soul. Besides, the lumber companies only plant those bio-engineered homogeneous strains that totally kill the paradigm of biodiversity. I want to plant or encourage the growth of species that I enjoy the most.

I've never done a detailed stoichiometric analysis of the carbon cycle but I still think that planting trees makes sense.

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