Infill price help

Re: Infill price help *LINK*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I assume the plane in which you're interested is the one below. But basically it doesn't much matter what a fair price is on ebay, or in any other auction for that matter. What does matter is the price the market sets. There's some question whether this is a Mathieson, and there are definitely some repairs that will need to be made. You have to decide how much that plane is worth to you, make that bid, and don't worry about it. If no one else is interested, you'll get it real cheap; but if lots are interested, they'll bid it up.

I will note that I don't think I'd buy an old infill on ebay, except maybe a new one from the manufacturer; mainly because I don't like doing metal work and most of the really old ones need work.

Pam


Mathieson (?) plane

Re: Infill price help

joel -( tools for working wood)

>If that's the plane in question it's not a mathison - it just has a mathison blade.

This one *LINK*

Jim in Bulington On

>http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-VINTAGE-ALEX-MATHIESON-JACK-PLANE-SUPERB_W0QQitemZ190056304073QQihZ009QQcategoryZ13874QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-VINTAGE-ALEX-MATHIESON-JACK-PLANE-SUPERB_W0QQitemZ190056304073QQihZ009QQcategoryZ13874QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: This one

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Ah, now that's a nice looking plane, but already above $400. I could see this going for $1000 or more. It doesn't look much like a jack to me, more of a panel plane; but Joel's involved now, he's an expert.

Pam

Re: Tony Murland

Barryvabeach

>Jim, you might want to try contacting Tony Murland http://www.antiquetools.co.uk/tools.htm

He normally has a number of infils with a fairly broad price range. I have purchased a few planes from him ( not infills) and thought his prices were fair. I checked today and he did not have any infills listed. The last time I checked - maybe 6 months ago, he had at least 6. I have not ever talked to him, though I think others have when he has been in the states at various events and heard he knows what he sells. If you do see a few listed you may want to call him to see why some are priced more than others ( certain planes may be of more interest to collectors than users) and what range he would charge for something you would be happy with. Good Luck Barry

Re: This one... agree. Over $1000.00

vlparisian

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And Andrew Stephens *LINK*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Also, Andy Stephens at Inchmartine is having his last big catalog sale of the year (3 a year usually), and he's even more reasonably priced than Tony. Good idea Barry.

Pam


Inchmartine catalog sale

Comparables and stuff

woodburnbob

>Jim, when I try to size up the "the market", I track what's happening on Ebay, how Murland and how Andrew at Inchmartine are pricing things, what TheBestThings is asking, and what Brunner is doing. In a discounted way, I sometimes look at Trinders and MJD...incidentally, anybody know what's going on at Trinders? There's nothing there. By discounted I mean I multiple the Trinders and MJD price by 0.5 to get a sense of what a reasonable price is. However, both Brunner and Murland ... and everyone else for that matter... get some pieces in the Trinders/MJD category from time to time.

The other variable I try to keep in mind is time of the year. If one is looking for value, Summer is the time to shop. If availability is the issue, despite higher prices, Fall is often the time to shop. I've stopped buying infills, but it's pretty easy to stumble onto a great buy if you are patient and shop regularly. The last few years I've found little consistency in Murland's prices, sometimes pretty high, sometimes pretty low. Incidentally, I've bought from Ebay, Murland, Andrew, Brunner and never been screwed.

But I don't see many comparable out there on-line at this moment.

Hans Brunner has a near twin to the one you are looking at that's up for A$1150 AU. What's that in USD, $850 or so? I'd guess that might be high.

This Norris A1 came off Ebay 11/19 at $457

And this Norris A1 on 11/23 at $635

My impression over the years has been that Norris A1s get more than Mathieson panels, which get more than Spiers. I think this is mostly branding and cachet.

I got a mint Spiers panel several years ago for $500 (probably $100 too much), and one I got off Ebay one summer for $300, worth maybe $50 more. I use both from time to time and they're pretty impressive.

In this category of tool buying (signed antique infills), you have to decide how much trouble to make for yourself over $100-200. Also, you must be prepared to receive a plane that won't work and accept that you may work your butt off tuning it.

I don't think you'll get your plane for $500. If I wanted it on my terms I'd snipe at $650 and be happy if I won and be happy if I lost. But that's just me. I'm pretty sated.

Re: Comparables and stuff

Joel

>comparibles are really hard to evaluate.

the hans brunner plane you show looks refinished. (lessens collectibility)

the two norrises are post wars which are worth much less than the pre-wars.

I don't buy on Ebay anymore for a bunch of reasons. My overall impression is that really collectible mint stuff goes really high - about the same as a major auction. However a lot of stuff with sublte flaws goes for more than it would in a major auction.

I have never seen a real bargin.

Looks like somebody's 1st. attempt making infill

HC Sakman

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This reply meant to go to Pam's linked auction

HC Sakman

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Good assessment, Chico. Now try Jim's link.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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I saw that Pam. it looks like a gem!

HC Sakman

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Nice Plane!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>It's not a jack plane, but a panel plane (big smoother so to speak). I don't think it will go for over 1K, but it is possible. My guess is in the $600.00 range. It will be a fun auction to watch.

$833

woodburnbob

>For anyone reading this thread months or years from now, the ebay auction ended at $833. This was the ballpark price of a similar Brunner example at the time.