LV or LN: New #113 Compass Plane?

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Dave Thompson

>I have no idea about LV or LN's plan for a compasss plane... though what about a #20? I have have a Record #020 which I've had good results with.

Are they still making those?

John in New Mexico

>I found myself wanting one recently, and not having much luck finding vendors. Common enough used I guess, if one wants to go that route.

John

Re: Are they still making those?

Dave Thompson

>As far as I know only Kunz and Anant make an adjustable compass #113 style. I don't know anyone making a #20 today. I think newish Record #020's are pretty common on e-bay. Most are in excellent shape, as it's not a plane that gets alot of use. Plenty of good Stanley's and other makers too.

The "used" one I bought on e-bay still had the factory bevel grind on it. I suspect it had never been used.

While I think one has a better chance of buying a hardly used compass plane, than a bench plane on the used market, here's a tip for those attracted to vintage patina'd adjustable compass planes. Check the sole near the mouth for cracks. I bought an old Stanley #113 at an auction and didn't check this out. The flex sole was cracked near the mouth, and as a result no longer had an even arch. Can't do much about it other than use it for a wall decoration. I think this is a pretty unusual case though.

enjoy,

Dave

Re: LV or LN: New #113 Compass Plane?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I went through a search for a 113, too, but quickly realized that for my purposes an old woodie compass plane with an adjustable boxwood snout would do fine.

Pam

Re: LV or LN: New #113 Compass Plane?

thomd

>I have both the record 20, and the Stanley Rule and Level Co. 113. They can be handy, but I wouldn't have thought they had a coopering vibe since the curvature is longi not trans.

Re: LV or LN: New #113 Compass Plane?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I haven't yet built a barrel or bucket, so my use is limited to chair seats and the like. I also have a couple or three small Japanese planes that are curved every which way, but without adjustable snout.

Pam

Re: LV or LN: New #113 Compass Plane?

Rob Lee

>Hi -

No plans here...

Tom can have a wide open field on that one....!

Cheers -

Rob

You mean you're not throwing us a curve? :>)

Derek

>I have wished for a modern one (the older ones I've seen seem to be rusted too much or the sole damaged) for a long time!

What's this 'adjustable snout'?

Chuck Nickerson

>How can I get a look at one, or at least some photos?

I'm doing something a bit different.

Chuck Nickerson

>Picture coopered mugs/buckets with an hourglass shape. I've been working out the details with Lee Valley's birdbeak router bits. But once I know what I'm doing, I'm going to make them with handtools for the Tiki pop culture market.

Re: I'm doing something a bit different.

Dave Thompson

>You might want to check the limitations on a #113 or #20 before putting your money into one of these. From what it sounds like to me, the radius on a #113 or #20 is much too large for the applications you mention.

If you really wanted to use a compass plane for something that small, it might be an excuse to make a woodie.

Dave

Rhinoplasty?

Mike L (Orange County, CA)

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I can't imagine making a useful plane.

Chuck Nickerson

>It's hard enough to successfully use a good one.

Re: I can't imagine making a useful plane.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I think it would be much easier to make a wooden plane than a coopered, hour glass shaped mug. You might want to take a look at violin planes, some of the larger ones.

Pam

Re: What's this 'adjustable snout'?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>It's really the toe that moves vertically to change the angle. Here's the best I can do for the moment since my main old tool vendors don't seem to have any available right now. Look closely on the left of this photo.

Pam

Re: What's this 'adjustable snout'?

thomd

>Hmm. that looks like agate at the front that would adjust so that at some point one would have two points of conatact ont he infeed and clearance behind, sounds like a nice plane for a flat surface.

To no one in particular : The planes for making barrels are that upside down thing for shooting the joints. Fairly coarse hollowing and rounding shaves for the stave shape, and a plane for the outside. A special plane for inserting the lid. Not a lot of use for a compass plane.