Making a groove

Re: Making a groove

Paul Kierstead

>I am not sure if you mean the *specific* plane he uses, the brand he uses or the general type. In the vein of the general type, see

http://woodcentral.com.ldh0138.uslec.net/cgi-bin/archives_handtools.pl?read=75187

and maybe

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=44726

Or google drawer bottom plane.

I ended up dedicating a 044 to the task, but still want a dedicated plane someday.

Re: Making a groove

VTAndy4

>Hi Paul,

I'm talking about the specific plane, how it is made, etc. I'm assuming that this is a one-off that he made for himself. I haven't yet stopped the video to get a better look, but it looked like it was constructed out of two boards. I'd be interested in building one of these and was wondering whether anyone had spoken to Rob about the plane at a workshop or woodshow, etc. What's curious is that in the video, Rob mentions that he modified the plane to stop at a specific depth. If he made the tool himself for the purpose of making drawer bottoms, it seems like "modified" is an odd way to put it. In the video, he does explain other shop-made tools (the sanding jointers).

-Andy

Re: Making a groove

thomd

>I see what you mean, though a modification could refer to a later change or a departure from type since some of these planes are fixed depth while others have moveable fences. Anyway with the video, if you are game to build it, it should have enough info to derive the main features.

Making a groove with a match plane

Paul in NJ

>I haven't seen the video but the plane in question but might be half of a match plane (tongue and groove) pair. While some of them had adjustable fences, most of the ones I see have a fixed fence and depth stop. They came in sizes to match boards from 3/8" to 1-1/4" and probably larger. You could probably modify one to do drawer bottoms by adding or removing a little wood from the plane. They are one of the most common wood planes out there.

Paul Dzioba

He makes them

Jim in Burlington On

>You can order one thru his website robcosman.com

I'm sure Steve Knight makes them we had a discussion quite a while back I started making mine but work has kept me to busy.

Re: He makes them

VTAndy4

>Are you sure he sells them on his website? I can't find any info or pics of wooden planes on his website.

I went to "benches and tools" but there is something that isn't loading on that page.

-Andy

Re: Making a groove

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Hi Andy

After watching the DVD I also wanted a plane like that for grooving drawers. Not that I lack for planes for this task, mind you - the #043, #044 and #45 are great at it.

I came up with a woodie designed for T&G joints, tuned it up, and found that it works perfectly. Nice 1/4" grooves at a preset distance from the bottom.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Making a groove with a match plane

Warren in Lancaster, PA

>Andy

I think you can make your own left-handed model (opposit of Paul's plane) if you can get a cutter. The simplest plows have an open mortice on the side for the wedge and iron. The skate portion is just a part of the main block of wood. Going across the width of the bottom of the plane, you have first the skate part which is the same width as the cutter(or slightly narrower for clearence). Then you have a recess which is as deep as you want your groove to be and as wide as the distance you want the groove from the edge of the board. Then you have the fence portion which must extend down lower than the cutter portion so it will slide along the edge of your board. All one piece of wood except for the wedge. Make a full size drawing of the board with groove you want to get and the plane sole profile should mate with the drawing. I made several of them before I got a universal plow.

Somehow

Jim in Burlington On

>It seems to be off his webiste but the details of the draw making seminar had it in there.

Re: Making a groove

paul womack

>There were also cheap semi-ploughs (or fancy T&G planes, as you wish).

I've seen a Marples "grooving plane", which had a fence like a moving fillister, no depth stop, and only 3 fairly narrow irons (1/8", 3/16" and 1/4" from memory).

I know all was well and original, since the label on the box described the contents perfectly :-)

Similar to the moving tongueing and grooving planes described here:

http://www.roseantiquetools.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://roseantiquetools.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hickmanplanes2.jpg&target=tlx_new&title=Wood%20Planes

BugBear (who use a #043 or #044)

Drawer bottom fillester?

adam cherubini

>Bug,

I've seen those identified as drawer bottom fillesters, or drawer bottom plows. I have one and I really like it. It has a fence as you say and its short and cute. It has only one cutter- a 1/4" and I've never had teh urge to change it.

Adam

Re: Making a groove with a match plane

VTAndy4

>Ha! Warren, you correctly interpreted the underlying reason for my post, knowing that I am left-handed! Thanks for the idea about the full-size template. The source for the iron is another question. I'd hate to take an iron from an otherwise function woodie. Perhaps I can find a wooden groove plane that is split, and salvage the iron, then build my lefty plane to fit.

Thanks,

Andy

OK I think that I found it...

VTAndy4

>... by using web.archive.org, aka the "Wayback" machine. Gotta love the internet, even when something is gone, it is never gone for good! If you go into a page on his advanced workshops, there is a link to a suggested tool list for the course. It says that for the 1/8" and 1/4" plough, one should contact Rob. No further details, but now I know.

-Andy

Re: Drawer bottom fillester?

paul womack

>Similar conversation:

http://nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/archive/get.phtml?message_id=158154&submit_thread=1#message

BugBear