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Wood question (figure)

Frank D. in Montreal


>I made some veneer with this today, but I'm not sure what to call it; it's bubinga, but does anyone know the name of this figure (my guess would be blister, but the blisters that I've seen are always bigger; the board here is 4 5/8" wide)?

TIA


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thomd


>I usually call that quilted, though some stuff I have seen that was refered to as quilted was more geometric will less the look of bubbles and more emphasis on the dividing lines between the segments, like this is on the left, but less so on the right.

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Norman (Ottawa, Ont.)


>Frank,

Info I have indicates "blistered"

But as you say, the blisters are very tight.

It almost looks like colored blister pack :)

This stuff is considered "Freak-figured" in another book of mine :)

Norman

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Wiley Horne


>Frank,

There is a specific name for this figure (on bubinga particularly), which escapes me right now. Check Gilmer's and you will find it as soon as you find the bubinga.

I'll try to look it up later, but Gilmer is where the info lives.

Wiley

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Pomelle bubinga *LINK*

Wiley Horne


>Frank,

I just checked Gilmer. They call it Pomelle bubinga, and say it's the rarest figure in bubinga. The first board I came across was on page 2 of 'Unique Wood' (see link, about halfway down the page).

Wiley


Gilmer Wood/p. 2 of Unique Woods/Pomelle bubinga

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mikew


>Just be thankful you don't live as close to Gilmer as I do, Wiley!

But Gilmer has some very nice woods and, well, I cannot help buying nice woods.

My wife is a turner. When we both go there it gets a little spendy! Here's her latest creation. Pink Ivory and Katalox...

Take care, Mike


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mikew


>Hi Frank, Wiley got it sorted. Just wanted to add that Bubinga is going to look pretty nice.

Take care, Mike

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You have a most talented

Wiley Horne


>family, Mike!! That is a wonderful vase/jar your wife turned! Does she do saws also (<:)? I hear you 'bout Gilmer--a very expensive addiction. But they got the goods.

Wiley

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Frank D. in Montreal


>Beautiful piece Mike! Give your wife my compliments too. There's a lot of pink ivory where I buy my wood (I pick up a small piece to play with every now and then). It has a tendency to check, so must be difficult to turn and keep in one piece.

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Thanks everyone,

Frank D. in Montreal


>I appreciate your responses. The jury still seems to be out though, which is actually no problem for me (I can live with a little uncertainty!). Hobbithouse has a photograph of bubinga that looks very similar to mine (much like the photo in Wiley's link) and they call it birdseye bubinga. Several people have also said it was quilted. Wiley's link also seems authoritative. I do know that I've never seen any bubinga with a similar figure that's as tight or fine as mine.

I have some bubinga with a different figure pattern that was sold as pommel� (the same place that sold me the above wood); see pic below.

Thanks again.


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mikew


>Those are nice boards as well, Frank.

fwiw, I think Gilmer terms that bee's wing mottle or some such thing.

But a rose is a rose...and both those boards and the veneer you showed are great looking.

btw, what ya making with it?

Take care, Mike

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Nice stems!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>Those are some nice boards! I be in a world of S@#t if I lived by them...

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Frank D. in Montreal


>Someone else told me those were mottled too. I'm learning some new terms that's for sure.

I'm making a humidor, nothing special just a small project. It's kind of dragging on though; this is my third crack after trying (and failing) twice with commercial veneer. That's when I see how much I like woodworking because I'm still having fun. I much prefer using my own shop made veneer.

Just glued up the veneer for the sides.

Thanks


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Frank D. in Montreal


>thanks goodness i have a small shop, so I can't buy all the nice wood I see. I've had a few planks of really nice cocobolo in my car for three days. I have to make some room for them before I bring them in...(sigh)

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mikew


>Hah, my shop is 11' 6" square. So I know what you mean.

That's why, aside from a wall rack in the shop that is holding too much, the laundry room has a couple hundred board feet of planks stood up, the deep hall closet has some behind to coats and there's a 3 drawer cabinet for turning wood for my wife [2 drawers] and special off cuts and shop sawn veneers [1 drawer], wood in the living room, and about 2k feet on my front porch...our bedroom closet has about 3k pen blanks of exotics and more exotic turning blanks on the shelves, the conditioned attic space which has...

We don't spend a lot on tools. We do buy good wood from time to time.

Can't wait to see the humidor. I have one I promised to make for a relative two years ago and haven't made it yet.

Take care, Mike

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Thanks

Bill Houghton, avoiding work in Sebastopol, CA


>I printed this one to show LOML, who regularly gripes about the wood in the barn.

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veneering

GolfSteve in Calgary


>Hi Frank,

Have you tried hide glue hammer veneering? For something that size I've found that hammer veneering is much easier than trying to use PVA and cauls.

Preparing the hide glue is a bit of a pain, but the veneering process is much easier.

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mikew


>Hi Bill--I would give my eye teeth for a barn! Heck, a decent storage shed for that matter .

Oops. I also have a storage shed. Other than some implements of destruction, it houses 2' to 4' Birdseye Maple burls, Black Walnut log sections, some figured Apple log sections, etc., for my wife...and that's aside from the half dozen stacks of about a half a cord each she has up off the ground and under cover.

Guess I need a second shed for me.

And a little photographic evidence for your wife

Wife's closet:


Laundry room:


Hall closet:


Take care, Mike

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Frank D. in Montreal


>Hi Steve,

Thanks for the suggestion. Next time I try to use commercial veneer I will try hide glue for sure. I already use hide glue as size when I stain, so I am familiar with it (although as size I can apply it cold, so I don,t have a decent glue pot). One slight problem that I could see using hide glue with shop-made veneer (although I'm obviously just speculating) is that the veneer is quite thick (1/16-3/32") thus making it difficult to go back and iron out the bubbles or air pockets. Anyway, I've been following Krenov's advice for using shop-made veneer (with PVA) and have had success so far, so I've turned back to that to finish this project at least.

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Frank D. in Montreal


>Wow Mike,

I'M going to keep those in my archives for future argument--I mean reference!

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mikew


>Yeah, but most spouses are savy enough to figure out that half the wood is my wife's! So be careful. Hate for it to backfire ...

Looking forward to the humidor pics...Mike

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Norman (Metcalfe, Ont.)


>Hi Frank,

Not sure how wide the pieces you are veneering, but it is a good idea to use slightly convex curved cauls going across from front to back. This will ensure that the middle area of the boards are also tightly clamped and no air or glue pockets develop.

I have a mechanical veneer press I built using curved cauls and short lengths of 3/8 threaded rod with wing nuts and lock nuts I have photographed below. The curved cauls place pressure also in the middle of the board being veneered.. The piece being veneered would be placed between the melamine-coated panels ( no glue stick issues). It has served me well for panels for small boxes, humidors, etc.. It handles 18in. X 14in. panels. You can make it larger if you need. I have since moved on to vacuum veneering :)

Norman


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Frank D. in Montreal


>Hi Norm,

The humidor is so small that clamps have it all pretty well covered. I remember seeing your press when I went to your place. It's a nice setup, perhaps I might make one if I have more veneering to do. I can also use cauls and clamps on a small table or my bench, that way I don't need storage space for another jig, but I guess a press can be taken apart and doesn't take up much space wither. I'm going to keep that idea in the back of my mind since I'm pretty sure I'll never get into vacuum pressing.

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You wouldn't want this barn

Bill Houghton, retired fun in Sebastopol, CA


>no floor, so the water runs right through it in the winter (we live at the bottom of a hill), and not much roof in most of it anymore either. One of our projects down the road is a demolition permit, so we can build a better structure; though we're currently locked in a "remodel vs. start from scratch" discussion in the family, with those who have done more carpentry leaning toward the latter and those who have done less leaning toward the romance of the former.

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Brad in Ottawa

>And here I was concerned that without a Porch project that I would have to invite you to Ottawa to work on some of my honey do list to keep yourself busy!!!

BTW - Nice job on the window!

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