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Saturday tool fun, thanks to a little help (long) *LINK*

MIles


>Been meaning to post a message describing a little weekend tool fun and some help from the famous Bugbear (who hasn't posted recently, I notice...) which made for a really good workshop Saturday. BB, hope you aren't embarrassed by public thanks :-) Thanks are due to WC as well, as it was via here that I 'met' BB and later found that he lives only about 50 miles away.

As you all know BB's a keen tool restorer, and I originally asked him for advice about restoring a sweet little Sorby dovetail saw I had picked up, which had teeth like a comedy witch, all different sizes and shapes, and a slightly distorted blade... not a great start. I straightened the blade, but needed help sharpening. A quite different saw emergency (which is too painful to admit here) made me ask him if he knew any 'really good' sharpening services in the UK... as the answer was No, and we discovered he lived not far away, he then volunteered his Saturday to come over and have a go, being no mean sharpener himself. This was very generous, but I was pretty stunned when he turned up with two large boxes of his own tools he thought would be interesting, to look at, play with, and generally enjoy. This is the kind of shared enthusiasm that seems to energise lots of WC discussions - but live!

In the boxes he had several nice backsaws he'd sharpened, as comparisons for mine, with a useful variety of tooth geometries (interesting to try, esp. the 8 deg rake & fleam BB-special). The benefit of extra weight of a thick brass back and the appropriate tooth type, was very apparent when trying them. Just relax & let the saw do the work...

Also stunningly good in the hand were a pair of lovely woodies, a scrub & a jack, with nicely cambered old laminated Preston blades. I have a couple of woodies, but these really showed how good they can be - light and 'fast' to use, and these were very well flattened so could easily be set very fine. I want some like these! Perhaps BB had anticipated the desire to properly camber some blades, as an Eclipse camber-sharpening jig also made an appearance, along with the casual comment 'I brought you this as I have 3' - I have used it and it works :-) I don't need to say that this was an unexpected bonus on top of the time and effort already given... BB you're a gent!

(he also left behind a spare copy of the Workbench Book... there was no end to the nice surprises on this particular Saturday)

After 'wasting' some considerable time just looking, and trying various things, we had to get down to the intended serious work of saw filing - which proved to need some patience, as the little DT saw was going to be retoothed at 15ppi (see templates on website, very useful!). The surprise was that although care was needed to keep the spacing, a good file cuts _really fast_ and we had teeth to size in no time flat (with BBs guide tricks, I found it pretty easy to get the hang of it after a few tentative teeth). Final shaping needed steady hands and this is where BB took over to leave me with a fully sharpened antique Sorby DT saw, that cut pretty jolly well. Very satisfying, and nice to know that this _is_ something well within the reach of us amateurs, even if the Adria's of the saw world still manage to produce (by hand?) unfeasibly perfect teeth that might take a good bit more practice to aspire to! (I have a couple of these and they are amazingly good, just a joy to hold and use. Far too good for me... and now I appreciate even better just how subtle and critical the filing has to be to achieve that result!)

I hope this ramble has given you a nice picture of a sunny English afternoon with the gentle rasping noise of files carefully reshaping some old English steel, & the happy murmer of a couple of galootish enthusiasts finding out that some other people do indeed share their interests, and are generally a generous type happy to share knowledge & time. A good day indeed!

cheers to all

Miles


BB's pages including saw sharpening notes

Re: Saturday tool fun, thanks to a little help (long) *LINK*

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia


>Yes to all of your thoughts and comments! I have met a great bunch of posters from WoodCentral and previously Badger Pond. And holding tools that you have only seen on web pages is a superior experience. As Paul (BB) has posted for years here and on Badger Pond earlier, I appreciate his expertise and insight. I too would like to spend a Saturday with him and add a face to face meeting to the already familiar personality.JR

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Dave Thompson


>Nice that you've found someone to share the enthusiam with so close. Attempts to relate some excitement to my coworkers about restoring a broad axe or a jointer plane results in blank stares or polite attempts at follow up, which ends in me explaining what the heck I'm talking about. ;-)

Given that there are something like 450 million native English speakers and only about 300 lurk on this forum, tells me that what you found may be roughly on the order of 1 in a million. 50 miles is pretty close.

I've often enjoyed it when people post show-n-tell threads of their old tool projects or collections here.

Dave

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Miles


>Sadly I didn't take pictures - we were so engrossed with what we were doing. As has been said so often, a little hands-on is worth any amount of reading & pondering (though these are necessary as well, if only to pass the time in dull meetings thinking about how to solve some interesting WW problem!). My afternoon (and evening, I think he went home after midnight!) was great fun, and learning by doing, with someone experienced there to keep things going well, was perfect. What goes around, comes around, and I'll be keen to help in my turn when I can.

'Feel the love' :-)

Miles

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Wiley Horne


>Miles,

This story is a well-earned tribute to a most generous Paul Womack. Years of lessons in one long day. One of the lessons I have picked up from him--though from thousands of miles away--is one you mentioned: the wonderfulness of wooden scrubs, jacks, and foreplanes. Thanks for sharing.

Wiley

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Aw, shucks

paul womack


>Thanks for the generous words, Miles.

Of course, what Miles forgets to mention is that he actually does woodwork, and has the house contents to prove it, wherea I just mess round with tools.

Oh, and juyst to avoid any confusion...

as an Eclipse camber-sharpening jig

It's an old Marples #7418.

Picture here

BugBear

Re: Saturday tool fun, thanks to a little help (long) *LINK*

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Re: Aw, shucks

Miles

>Sorry about that Paul, I was guessing rather as I couldn't remember and I think I was 'writing up' late one evening and didn't want to traipse out to the shop in my dressing gown to find the right answer!

Very embarrassing to misquote a gift! And one that works, too - my Clifton iron had a much neater camber on it than my freehand efforts usually manage, with its help.

I do have _some_ woodworking evidence in my flat, but it doesn't show up too well 'gainst some of the art that shows up here pretty regularly. Maybe I'll post a couple of pix taken from the right angles so it looks better :-)

cheers all

Miles

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Re: Aw, shucks

paul womack

>...some of the art that shows up here pretty regularly.

Heh. I call "self selecting sample" on that.

A crime I'm regularly guilty of myself :-)

BugBear

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