Sword scabbard

Re: Sword scabbard

thomd


>What do you mean by "when drawn, is it the idea that the insert comes out with the sword? If it's just the usual wooden insert into which the sword is inserted then it is often made of two pices and the sword channel is cut into it with a special chisel (or whatever you have). The Japanese tool stores sell the chisels, so you can at least have a look see. You would find out more about scabbards from baldeforums, or Don Fogg's forum. There are a lot of sword makers out there, polishers, fitting makers and so forth.

Re: Sword scabbard

John Hoffman


>Yeah, what I mean is when the sword is pulled out of the scabbard the edge of the blade will run on the wood insert and the edge will be protected from running on the metal scabbard. I want the insert to remain in the scabbard. Will check out those forums, thanks

JH

Re: Sword scabbard

thomd


>It would be better still if the edge didn't touch at all, which is partly to do with controling the shape of the scabbard so that it holds the edge off. Runnning a sword back and forth over wood will wear both out. I think what you described would work well enough for making the rectangular track you have in mind.

Re: Sword scabbard

Todd Hughes


>You didn't say what type of sword it is but I have never seen or heard about a metal sword scabbard that had a wooden insert like this. The Japanese and some other cultures [ Philipines etc.]used wooden scabbards but that was the scabbard that was wood and not some insert. As others said these were made out of two pieces that had the cavity chiseld out and then joined together down the center.

If the sword your friend has is in it's original scabbard I don't see how you will be able to fit a wooden insert in it too....or that it will need one .....Todd

Re: Sword scabbard

John Hoffman


>Yes, you got it. It is a japanese ww2 sword and has a metal scabbard that had a wooden insert. How it was made etc is beyond me. I know that if I am trying to do something overly complicated then I am doing it wrong. I thought there is likely someone out there that has expirience with this issue. ThomD suggested some other forums which I will check out. Otherwise I am puzzled.

Regards

JH

Re: Sword scabbard

Steve Kubien


>How about just a short insert...1-2". As it is drawn and returned to the saya (what the Japanese call the scabbard) the back of the blade is in contact but never the edge.

A question which comes to my mind is why would it ever be drawn? If just for show-and-tell (a very worthy cause in my mind) then I would tell the owner to be careful. If this is a "samurai-style" sword and is to used for iaido, I would highly recommend getting an iaito or shinken. A little more than 2 cents on my part.

Steve Kubien

Re: Sword scabbard

Jay Hanks


>You might want to see if there is a sword forum, I think there is, and see if someone there could help. That sounds pretty specialized to me.

Re: Sword scabbard

John Hoffman


>The sword is a users model and the owner is a martial arts master. Hence he wants to use it. I will look into the insert idea.

Thanks

JH

Re: Sword scabbard *LINK*

briarbrow


>first post here. This is a good place to lurk if you didnt know.

It sounds very unusual that a qualified instructor would allow a student to use a ww2 metal saya. martial art Saya are wood, tied to the belt(obi) with cord. You dont have that with the gunto saya.

It would also be unusual for the original wood hilt(tsuka) to be safe for use.

Assuming the blade is good enough to use, but not so good to be highly valuable, what your friend really needs for MA is a complete remount of the sword with that intention in mind.

good luck with it.


see it done

Very cool link. Thanks!

Steve Kubien