Ebay ad copy illustrating the term hubris *LINK*

Re: Ebay ad copy illustrating the term hubris

david.marcus.brown


>I think the rosewood knob attached to the "snout" is rather attractive.

Re: Ebay ad copy illustrating the term hubris

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)


>Are those the prose of our own Jim Reed?

Regards from Perth

Derek

That's what I was thinking...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

Caught in the act...

jimreed@tallahassee


>I majored in English and writing at my old alma mater--the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Instead of writing the great American novel, I have turned to Ebay as an outlet for my prose. There I can combine woodworking, metalworking and writing--three of my passions. Thanks for the kind words. It is nice to know that someone actually reads and enjoys the spewing words.

Re: Ebay ad copy illustrating the term hubris

Todd Hughes


>Selling at only $26 doesn't look like it makes much sence to go to the trouble to "tune" a plane up befor selling as I don't think it helped the price any.If plane was cleaned up good might have helped some.... I think this plane would have done better broken up for parts , wood alone probably would have gone for what the entire plane did.

Whats this about you can't keep all your old girl friends ? ......Todd

So, Jim...

woodburnbob


>I stupidly didn't make the connection between the seller and you.

Since my post, I've gotten an email to say you are a fine fellow, not prone to exaggeration about tools, and a straight shooter. The author, who I respect, took exception to my use of the word 'hubris'.

Actually, I originally attached no pejorative sense to the word but do now realize some use it with a connotation of arrogance and a negative valence on pride. Frankly, what I found amusing was the tongue-in-cheek comic boastfulness about the plane, your tool collection and all the freed girlfriends.

If I offended you, I naturally apologize. But, equally, of course, I think you need to worry about what the gods are thinking.

For those following along, here's the Oxford English Dictionary definiton:

hubris: Presumption, orig. towards the gods; pride, excessive self-confidence.

As parts

jimreed@tallahassee


>The parts always bring more money, but I have a mission in life to spread planecraft. This is a really sweet plane and needs to go intact to someone who will use it.

Actually

jimreed@tallahassee


>I thought hubris was misused when I read your post, which was quite positive overall. Certainly no offense was taken. I was happy that someone had actually read my copy. The plane sold for a good price and I am happy x2. Thanks for reading and responding.

Shavings

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.


>Jim,

I think you should of said what type of wood those shavings where, and also they look a bit short and sorta' "choppy", unless I'm seeing them wrong. I'd think that a shot or two of a long, gossamer shavings would of been better.

Also, to my eye it looks like you flattened that sole, but didn't mention it, and to what the final grit was.

Not to critisize mind you, quite to the contrary indeed. Nice looking plane, excellent rehab job, and I'm sure it's the performer that you say that it is.

Todd O.

Re: As parts

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)


>Well done Jim. It struck me that you could have used your energy to tart up the plane and sell it as jewellry. But you did not - instead you sold it as a woodworking tool. I like that. Todd will strongy disagree with your strategy - and he is probably correct from a materialist perspective - but it is possible to balance this with other priorities.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Actually

Dennis McDonaugh


>I want to know about the girlfriends released back into the wild....

Re: As parts

Todd Hughes


>Well you do have to remember if you broke the plane up and sold the parts that most people that bought them would have been buying them...why ?...to put on thier planes and so to get them back to a working. So by selling this one plane together your misson in life to spread plane craft has resulted in only getting this one plane back working while it has prevented maybe 3 or 4 other planes that perhaps needed the parts from being used by thier owners.Do have to wonder which would further "planecraft" better....one plane working or 3 or 4 put back to work?

Is funny to hear the self righteous indignation about breaking up planes for parts ...of coutse I fear these voices would be rather silent if it was THEM that needed the parts , eh?.....Todd

Hail, Fellow Tar Heel ! !

Bob Hutchins in central TX


>BobH, '64 BSBA

Re: Actually

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.


>Denis,

This "released back into the wild" thing may be just a difference in point of view.

I think what the Truth is, is that they finally just Escape, and Jim looks at it as "Released" if he dosen't bother to hunt them down and bring them back. ;~)

Todd O.

Hiding from Jim

Re: As parts

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)


>Todd

I do think that one too many of your anvil collection has fallen on your head! < grin >

Don't you think that it is illogical to break up a fully functional plane so that others can use its parts (regardless of the number of planes so rescued) ? Is it not more logical to break up a non-functional plane for these parts?

Can you feel the bumps? :>)

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Hail, Fellow Tar Heel ! !

jimreed@tallahassee


>Class of '71. Small world. Lived in Upper Quad (Manly) for four years.

I thought

jimreed@tallahassee


>all those shrieks were the happy sounds of my *catch and release* program.

Sometimes

jimreed@tallahassee


>I did not mean to place any value judgement on selling parts. It is not a bad thing and I buy quite a few of them. By spreading planecraft I am looking at a different audience. Parts purchasers do not need any of my expertise to put together a working plane. Those new to the craft, however, are well served by being able to purchase an affordable plane that has been tuned and is ready to work. I fooled around with planes unsuccessfully most of my ww career until I finally saw a well tuned plane in action. Then I understood. My point is that it is hard to get that understanding from a bunch of parts.

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Todd Hughes


>"Don't you think that it is illogical to break up a fully functional plane so that others can use its parts (regardless of the number of planes so rescued) ? Is it not more logical to break up a non-functional plane for these parts? "

No I keep the non functional planes intact...DUH !

..Well don't you think it would be more logical if you are selling to break up the "Parts" planes you HAVE for parts instead of breaking up non functional planes you might NOT have for parts? Granted this selling of just parts from non functional planes might look good and proper on paper but in the real world of buying and selling tools is just kind of a lame nonsensical approach that could only be advanced by those with limited experance as to the availbilty of tools and how to sell them for a profit. You CAN sleep peacefully knowing that if I come across any non functional "Parts" planes they get broken up as well.

Have to admit I get a grin when people get self rightious about breaking up a common, rusty, nothing special no. 4 Stanley for parts and get "holier then thou" when they advocate keeping the same intact. [of course this is made easier for them because they are talking about YOUR profit and money and not thiers !],... makes me think perhaps they have seen to many Disney movies of dancing tea pots,candle sticks and other inanimate items ....Todd

Beauty and thrift

woodburnbob


>I've come to appreciate a certain rustic beauty in Todd's perspective.

Reading these posts, it occurs to me that some fellow out there should take heed of the implications mentioned here.

The bargain high-performing plane on Ebay has always been a Bedrock #5 that is cosmetically challenged. Many go for the price of a Bedrock lever cap for a #4 (the same size as a #5).

For the guy starting out with no dough for good planes: Buy a cheap Bailey #4 with a busted cheek but acceptable lever cap and wood. Buy a Bedrock #5 with busted tote and intact Bedrock lever cap. Swap lever caps and wood. Sell the Bedrock lever cap. There's a fair chance you'd wind up with a completely functional, tuneable, utilitarian Bedrock for free.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.


>.....seen to many Disney movies of dancing tea pots,candle sticks and other inanimate items ....Todd

I knew it* that sooner or later those dancing teapots would somehow, someday, in someway screw me! I knew it!

Actually I am against the idea of breaking up a complete plane, but then again, I don't earn my living selling stuff either, so I can see Todd's perspective quite clearly as well, and harbor no ill will to him, or others who break up complete planes. They are afterall at the end of the day inanimate objects, but that's view.

* said in my best impersonation of Ted Danson in his show "Becker"

Todd O.

Just another victim of Dancing Teapots

Todd, you crack me up!!