Galootish Encounters of the 3rd Kind: semi-rant.

Re: Galootish Encounters of the 3rd Kind: semi-ran

Jack Guzman from Maine


>Learning that mistakes are normal and that learning how to fix them is a part of the process.Speaking for myself of course.---Jack

You speak for me, too, Jack!

Bruce, a MN Galoot

Re: Galootish Encounters of the 3rd Kind: semi-ran

paul womack


>Yeah - I hear what you're saying.

I guess it's the principle that in hand work, you don't add the accuracy later; you create it at the start, and then try not to lose it.

Or, put another way, it's easier to do it right, than do it wrong and then fix it up.

BugBear

#4 : When SWMBO asks "What is it ?"

Steve Mackay

Enjoying the first kind!

Donald Pierson

Not true Jack

Dave Anderson Chester, NH


>In reality I suspect that you speak for all of us. Anyone who doesn't make mistakes is either feeding us a line of bull or is heavily self-delusional. Learning to fix or hide your errors is a true art form and I've become an artist of the first caliber over the years. ;-))))

Not true Jack

Dave Anderson Chester, NH


>In reality I suspect that you speak for all of us. Anyone who doesn't make mistakes is either feeding us a line of bull or is heavily self-delusional. Learning to fix or hide your errors is a true art form and I've become an artist of the first caliber over the years. ;-))))

Master Craftsman

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.


>The definition of a Master Craftsman is one you can make a mistake and tham make it look like it was intentional. Paul is working on his Masters Craftsman certification right now as a matter of fact. ;~)

I hear what you're saying tho Roy, working completely without the aid of any training, or teacher can be slow and frustrating at times, but when you finally get it right it's well worth it. As long as you're WWing for money, than chill out, do your best, learn from your (many) mistakes and just enjoy all the Eureka!! moments you encounter. I encounter them all the time and it's a pleasent sensation.

Todd O.

Re: #4 : When SWMBO asks "What is it ?"

dave caudill


>I once took a class with Gary Rogowski and made the comment that I just hate making mistakes and often the fear of that holds me back. He just kind of chuckled and told me I'd better get used to it or something like that. Its one of those encounters that you never forget and it kind of frees you in knowing that even the most accomplished woodworkers do make mistakes. Its just not a prevalent as those of my skill level.

Dave

Re: Not true Jack

mikew


>Well, Dave, your response deserved to be double-tapped. .

I spoke to a man the other day and we talked about his apprenticeship in England. Moving beyond mistakes is part of what makes one a craftsman. Often a person new to the craft can become paralyzed by their mistakes rather than accept them, fix them and move on in a timely manner.

Experience dictates how quickly one can recover from a mistake and the quality of the fix.

Take care, Mike

making mistakes daily...

How to keep the 4th from happening...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA


>Get yourself the the Jim Kingshott videos, pop open a cold one and enjoy.

Re: Galootish Encounters of the 3rd Kind: semi-ran

Thom D


>There are quite a few different ways of doing layout, some of which depend on properly dimensioned stock and others that don't. The 2 that don't and that I comonly use on wood are: Layout from reference surfaces, be they the granite block type stuff one gets in metalworking, or the leveling the legs with reference to the table top. You could do all your layout from reference surfaces, sometimes it's fast and other times it's pretty slow.

There is also layout on a square rules basis as in in temberframing, I think that snap lines and winding sticks are a similar system, where the layout is done without the requirement that the piece be straight or there be a reference surface the size of the workpiece, one is using smaller tools to relate the areas being joined.