Don't draw hasty conclusions
Denis Ch�nard, away in eastern Qu�bec
>I would say "some Groz planes are crap" instead...
I bought two Groz planes (with the intent of offering them to my BIL), a jack and a low angle block plane. The LAB I haven't managed to get it so far to behave despite quite a bit of effort, so crap seems to apply here. I haven't given up yet, but I've spent more time on it than the plane costs ($20).
The jack is another ball game. True, the sole was way out of flat, and so was the blade. It did require quite a bit of lapping (starting with 80 grit), but once I was done, with my regular sharpening/honing regimen, I managed to plane bird's eye maple with no tearout. And I did nothing to the frog other than setting it for a reasonably fine throat. For the CAN $35 I paid for it I think it does quite well.
I was impressed enough that I went and got another one for myself. It required quite a bit less lapping than the first one, so QC is probably fairly "random". I had a specific plan for this plane, which was to fill the gap in my plane set between the scrub and the jointer. Thus I set it up with a fairly cambered blade and an open mouth. It works very well.
Mind you, this is not close to Veritas (or LN or Clifton) quality, but it is good value for the money. In my shop it allows to keep my Veritas low angle jack in a smoother configuration most of the time. I'm glad I bought the Groz, yet I know that it won't replace my Veritas planes anytime soon...
DC